Tommy Robinson Defends Himself

You're at the center of a major controversy, and that's not going to go away. What would you say—this is kind of a stalk question—but I don't know how to more intelligently formulate it. Um, what frightens you about yourself? What do you think about you is, what are your characterlogical weaknesses? Like you're in a rough position, and it's necessary when you're in a position like yours to be very aware of your various sins and stupidities.

So you know you said you've been very emotionally upset about what's happened to you, and you've been traumatized in prison, and you've had your finances demolished, and you've been the target of Judiciary investigations for a very long time. That's very stressful. It can make people, what would you say, touchy and volatile. You know, and I can actually understand that. So, like, what do you see in yourself that’s dangerous, and how are you trying to control, I suppose, the terrible things that you could purposefully or inadvertently bring about?

Okay, so yes, when the country was at its highest point again, when Lee Rigby was beheaded, when L was beheaded, I held a demonstration to 10,000 people. No one wants to pick up what I’ve said. I stood up and said, "There are 660 Muslims serving in our forces. Yeah, they’re doing more for the country than me. If you attack a Muslim woman, you’re a coward." I've always educated and been pivotal on my points of nonviolence.

Always. But yeah, what is the danger for me? The danger for me personally is I'm not going to back down. It's simple. And that doesn’t mean I’m not scared; I’m scared now. I'm terrified. I have felt under attack at times. I've never felt what I felt for the last two weeks. Never. I never ever felt this. I have got it coming from every angle, from everywhere. What does that do to me? Does it make me cower? No, it makes me come out fighting.

And it makes me come out fighting in the sense that I'm willing to be the sacrificial lamb for you. Yeah, I'm willing to, and you better believe it—to the establishment. If you think putting me in jail and getting me killed is going to solve your problems, you’re going to spark a revolution like you cannot imagine. And I'm willing to be in that position. So I keep putting myself in the way, saying, "Go on then, what are you going to do?" Because I'm not going to back down on this.

And the reason I'm not going to back down? Because I wholeheartedly, Jordan, to anyone watching—I wholeheartedly believe our country is at stake. The future safety of our children is at stake. We're supposed to shut up and remain silent while we're replaced, while hostile communities are brought into our nation, while our rights and freedoms are taken. If you know how, after the last seven days, you can't see our rights and freedoms are being taken, well, we’re not going to remain silent while they take them.

And I’m going to scream it from the hilltop. So what faults do I have? That's my fault. My fault is that I should have backed down a long time ago. I should have remained silent. Probably anyone reviewing this may say I come across as aggressive. I can't. I'm passionate. And I’m passionate because I've had every thought and every worry going through my mind for the last two weeks. Have I as I watched the entire establishment's media, government, politicians lie about me? But I also know there's an army of people watching this who have seen their lies.

So there's people that you think you can just silence me? It's not going to work. You’re going to martyr me, and I’m not going to back down. And you know what? You’re going to create a thousand Tommy Robinsons. You've already done that with your actions over the last seven days. They've already done that. So there's no winning for them at this current situation. People are awake. People aren't backing down.

Our fight for freedom—without your fight, without our fight and love for freedom, will out your want for tyranny. And right now, we’re facing tyrannical forces; tyrannical forces that wish to enslave us and take our speech—something that's our God-given right. You’re not taking it—not without a fight. So people are... and what does that fight involve?

I'm not calling for people to commit violence; I never have. What I’m saying is we will use our platform, we will awaken people. And whatever move they make next, whether it’s putting me in prison—You see? Putting people in prison for 30 months for something said on Facebook? You’re actually doing our job. Our call is to awaken people. You’re helping with it. So each time they try to crush it, you’re actually creating more people.

And they think that they can scare people into silence. And as I said, I stood in Trafalgar Square and said to the establishment, "What you’re witnessing now is the British spirit." Do you see what they've done since that day? They’ve tried to break that British spirit. I don't think they’ll be successful. And the reason they need to censor this video you're watching now, they need to censor it because it has the ability to awaken more people. It has the ability to inspire more people, and they know that. They know that, which is why they must have total control.

You’re going to go back to the UK, you said, if I've got this right, near the end of October to face the music. That's the plan. And in the meantime, I presume your strategy so far has been certainly not to involve yourself in the demonstrations and so forth that have been occurring in the UK over the last few weeks; except you also said that you were correcting certain misapprehensions about what's been said about you. And also the information that's been spread around.

So your plan is to stay out of the—to let the events unfold as they will, but that you're going to go back to the UK and face the music. That’s the plan. My plan is my documentary is currently on 44 million views. By the time they get me in jail, it'll be on a hundred million. So by all means, send me to jail. You’ll put more rid in that film than I ever dreamed of. We, people, need to realize the weaponization of the court system against the people. It's not right; it's not right, and people need to know what they're doing and how they're silencing dissident voices across the West. They need to understand it.

If we're going to stop it, people need to understand it. If Donald Trump gets elected, he needs to break this. Okay? The weaponization of the courts, the unfair judiciary. Do you know, I will watch what I say when I get into court before the judge. Have you watched the film, Your Honor? If you have watched the film and I’m still sat here facing prosecution, you’re corrupt as well. Because that film categorically proves all I done was report the truth.

In what sane, freedom-loving world are we standing in where someone faces two years for reporting the truth? Do we believe in journalism or not? Do we believe in freedom of the press or not? The problem is so many journalists don’t believe in it. They believe in activism. They’re activists, not journalists. They’re total activists. So my intention is on the 28th and 29th of October to put the British judiciary on trial in the world’s eyes.

Now, so long as they don’t kill Elon Musk between now and then, that's my intention. Because everyone on X, through my account, will be able to witness and watch the truth be told. That’s my plans, Jordan. That’s not something I’m looking forward to. I just had—I had two weeks booked with my children because I knew what was coming.

Yeah, after three days, they found me and my children; they doxxed them and put them in danger. They purposely done that, so I had that time; that was my time with my loved ones because I know what’s coming for me, and they broke that. Yeah, they broke that. So I'm not doing this because I want to do this. I don't want to do this. I’d much rather just be enjoying my time with my children.

But I'm not prepared for my children to become enslaved. I'm not prepared for their freedom of speech to be taken. I'm not prepared for them to be totally controlled by a manipulated media. They want total control of the narrative. The censoring of your YouTube channel is to control the narrative. Nothing more. They can't pick fault with anything I’ve said; otherwise they'd highlight it. They’d say, "You’ve gone against guidelines." Well, show us what guidelines I've gone against! How come you can’t show us? This is total and utter control.

We either become slaves and allow censorship through big tech, through all the corporations, or we fight it. I’m going to play my part in fighting it.

Do you want to bring this to a close? Make some comments? Ask Tommy some questions?

Well, you inspired me. You’re inspiring us, and thank Tommy. And our countries and our values are worth fighting for. And it’s time for people—I think it’s time for people to see the next right thing to do and then to do it; not to turn away, not to turn away and not to think it’s someone else’s fight. Because I mean, if it’s your fight, then it’s my fight. If it’s your fight, then it’s my son’s fight; it’s my daughter’s fight because they have children. And we’re fighting for our kids. We’re fighting for our grandchildren to be able to have a place that they can call home like we have had a place to call home.

You know, I don’t really have any questions. I think Tommy ended it on a very good note. I think that it’s his bravery and his conviction. That’s what we need. We need to look at ourselves and to see what it is that is calling us to do and to take one step in that direction and see where it takes us. And if that's a scary place—and it’s going to be a scary place because we’re in a—we’re in an inflection point. Are you going to stay with the Matrix or are you going to tell the truth and free us from this tyranny?