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Is Moral Disgust Just Bad Evolution? | Robert Sapolsky / Big Think


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·Nov 3, 2024

We think metaphorically. We think in parables. We think in ways that are unrecognizable to other species. And that’s maybe 50,000 years old. Right around the time that our ancestors started doing things like throwing pigment on the walls of the cave, and this pattern of colors stands for an animal, stands for painting, cave paintings. The first sign that this is not a horse, this is a picture of a horse. And that was an incredible leap forward.

So we’re this symbolic species and our brain does this unbelievably fancy symbolism. But the interesting thing is it actually doesn’t do it all that well. And it has to do with the fact that 50,000 years is a blink of an eye in evolutionary terms. Fifty thousand years you invent all these abstract sort of concepts. You invent the notion of a moral transgression. A baboon could be pissed off at another baboon who’s bitten him and chase him as a result, but he doesn’t frame it as a moral failure. This moral transgression business is very new.

So how’s the brain going to do something like that in the eye blink of 50,000 years? And you see all sorts of interesting improvisations. For example, there’s this part of the brain called the insular cortex, the insula. Any normal run-of-the-mill mammal bites into a piece of food that’s rotten and rancid and toxic; the insular cortex activates, triggers all sorts of reflexes. You gag, you feel nauseous, you spit it out, whatever. A great way to avoid being poisoned by rotten food.

Humans bite into rotten food, exact same thing. That’s what the insula is for. But then you do something different. Now, sit down somebody and ask them to describe to you a time they did something totally rotten and skeevy to somebody else, or hear about some horrible moral transgression. Here’s this heartless robber baron that’s repossessing this elderly woman’s kidney dialysis machine, some horrible morally appalling act, and the insular cortex activates, and you feel disgusted by that person.

Hey! When you get to humans, this part of the brain that detects toxins in your tongue does moral disgust as well. Aha! So that tells you a couple of things. It tells you why you could be so morally appalled by something that you feel nauseated by it. "Hearing about that makes me feel sick to my stomach," "Having done that leaves a bad taste in my mouth," "I just feel I need to wash my hands of having done that. Out, out, damn spot."

So it tells you something about intermixing the metaphors there. It tells you something about evolution. When we came up with this moral transgression disgust, we didn’t invent a new part of the brain. In some ways, "Hey, insular cortex, that does disgusting food... 'Moral disgust'? I don’t know, that vaguely sounds sort of like that. Hey, somebody give me some duct tape. I’m going to strap moral disgust onto gustatory disgust." The insular cortex does that.

Now what’s the most interesting thing about that, though, is at the end of the day, if this neuron in your insular cortex activates because this food is fetid and disgusting and activates because you’re hearing about an act that was morally reprehensible, if it can’t tell the difference we have trouble telling the difference between visceral disgust and moral disgust. And thus you see things like we mistake things that are viscerally very, very strange with being viscerally wrong.

"Oh, they eat different stuff than us, they dress in different ways, they pray differently. That’s not just different. That’s wrong, wrong, wrong." We mistake feeling disgusted by something as being a good litmus test for deciding what’s right and wrong. And what we know is somebody’s "disgusting, this is simply wrong" is somebody else’s "perfectly normal loving lifestyle."

And it’s tempting if your stomach is in a total uproar, you know, "if it makes you puke you must rebuke." We mistake the strength of those visceral responses for abstract moral judgments. So it’s a very interesting intertwining; the part of the brain that tells you something about if this is hot or cold plays a role in judging: does somebody have a warm or cold personality?

If you were sitting in a hard chair versus a soft cushy one, you are more likely to judge somebody as having a hard inflexible personality. Whoa, this symbolic metaphorical stuff is so cool and so human and fancy! But we have trouble telling the difference. Somebody else’s pain can feel just as painful as your pain because it’s the same part of the brain that’s processing both.

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