Joe Rogan Experience #956 - Guy Ritchie
Boom! Yes! Boom! We're live! What's up, brother? How are you, man? How are you, Joe? You got a little pocket hanky there, the whole deal.
Well, I tell you, should I tell you why I wear a pocket square? Please.
Because if you don't wear a pocket square, you have the appearance that you've been squeezed into a sports jacket or a suit for conventional reasons, that your mom put you in there, or you're off to church or something, or you go to the office. Right? As soon as you put a pocket square in there, you own the jacket; it's your idea, not someone else's idea.
Ooh, dude, you're thinking several steps ahead. I like it! We're going to get into this, aren't we, JN? We are going to get into this.
Well, we were talking before the podcast about these press junkets and about how you entertain yourself by forcing yourself to use a certain word. Yeah, the danger— the worst thing in the film business is press junkets. And as you were saying, they're rather ineffective, and that's my suspicion too. They're not just ineffective; they're also inefficient.
Because you sit in a chair, someone comes in, and they ask you a question, "How good an actor is David Beckham when he's in his underpants?" or whatever it is, and you answer it in some facile fashion. And on the fourth time you answer that question, you're starting to swap flies that aren't there; you're starting to go mad.
So what happens is you have to play games with yourself. So you get someone on the side to throw different words at you, like "verisimilitude" or "arian," and then that keeps you occupied because you're thinking, "When someone asks me about Beckham in his underpants, I've somehow got to stick in a verisimilitude." And I say, "It's not easy!" Your answers become very creative.
Well, to ask someone to be sincere and ask the same questions over and over and over again, to them, like, people keep filing in, and a new person comes in and asks, “So, tell us about this film, and how did this get started?” And so whose idea was it?
So, um, I saw a film John Boorman made, Excalibur, in about 1980, and, uh, I was an impressionable young man of 10, and it was the first, like, knights in shining armor film that ever spoke to me. I wasn't particularly interested in Errol Flynn or any incarnation that they did in the 50s in this genre. But John Boorman's one was rather good; it was very aggressive, and no one spoke to one another; they all shouted at one another.
So, it took some time before you recognize that's why it was so intense. It's quite camp, so it had this sort of weird juxtaposition of being camp yet simultaneously aggressive. And, you know, they had a budget of $25 for their visual effects and lots of very shiny 19th-century armor, and it made a real impression on me because it was a voice, it was a creative voice.
So, it made an impression on me, and then somewhere in the attic of my mind, I relegated it until the point where I had enough creative ideas in my reservoir to bring it forward and make a film. And then someone gave me money, and Warner Brothers wanted to make it, and yada yada yada; and then it was the challenge, I suppose, of trying to take us adrift into this world, the fantasy epic, fantasy medieval, Lord of the Rings kind of world.
And it's completely out of my wheelhouse, so I find the challenge provocative and exciting as well. That's a fascinating era—like, or a genre, you know? That fascinating world of the fantasy, you know, knights and swords and bows and arrows— that realm, for whatever reason, has been intoxicating to people for a long time.
Yeah, it's an archetype. You're interested in farmers, you're interested in nurses, you're interested in superheroes. Obviously, I mean, arguably, Arthur was the first superhero because he's the guy that extracts the sword, and he can do all sorts of wondrous things.
And this myth is 1,200 years old, 1,400 years old, and it's as relevant today as it was then. But because it's an archetype, that somehow kids either dress up as farmer, policeman, soldiers, or knights. So we almost relive it; it's like an outfit that we wore 1,200 years ago, so you feel familiar in it.
Yeah, it's just fascinating that that one genre, that one sort of archetype, is just locked into the psyche of people.
Yeah, it's there, isn't it? The other thing about it, which is quite fun, is you can take these kind of mystical rides into metaphor. So you can symbolize things with 300-foot elephants, which you can't do in some version of a realistic world. So it becomes you have broad poetic license to take liberties.
Are you using CGI in this movie?
A lot of it, yeah.
Wow, what's that like?
Um, boring but creative. Um, it's three years to make this movie. I'm used to making movies that take three months to write.
Three months for snatch?
Three years.
Wow.
Three months to write from beginning to end—something like Snatch was three months, six weeks to shoot, two months to edit.
So Snatch was three months to do the whole thing, or write it to shoot it? The whole thing, from the very beginning to the end, was six months.
Oh, wow!
And then three months, say, for editing.
So you're wrapped and packed in nine months, ten months?
So this is a totally different kind of commitment as far as your mind is concerned.
Yeah, if I really knew what I was getting into, I would have asked for double bubble on the salary. Because you thought it was going to be a year and a half—it's not; it's three years.
Like, when you plan a movie like this, a big epic movie, do you have an actual schedule of when you think it's going to begin and when it's going to end?
Or do you—
But you know the terrain of filmmaking has changed exponentially, like everything, like with technology. So what was pertinent last year is not pertinent this year. So release dates are a real dog.
So, we had a release date which was projected a couple of years from when you start the movie. They go, "Right, here's a check, make a movie—you're coming out in…"
We were supposed to come out exactly a year ago, but then what happens is if you're not a branded movie, you get elbowed off that date. You know, Star Wars or something will come along, and then you're not going to compete with Star Wars, so you gotta move. Because you can't compete.
So, you got a very crowded market with lots of brands. Now, this isn't something that we used to suffer because everyone was equal going into the equation. You give yourself the advantage of having a movie star or something, but that doesn't exist anymore.
What exists now is the brand; it's the big brother. So he comes muscling and bullies his way into a weekend, and that's why you can't really get new films breaking through because those weekends are already occupied.
So trying to break through is a real, real struggle. We had to wait a year for a date, and the date that we're coming out on is one weekend after Guardians. Now, Guardians would be a vast hit, and it's very dangerous being within the parameters of a big movie.
That's a really interesting thing that only movies have to go through these days, right? I mean, it's one of the rare things where people are getting out and going to see something that's been made together in a group. You know, you're watching media like it's not a live performance; it's something that's been created, and it's going to press play at 8:00 p.m. on Friday night, and everybody's going to go see it.
And you gotta get as many of those people together as you can. It's one of the rare things like that.
Yeah, and it's becoming more polarized. So it means more now. So your opening weekend, everything's about— they know what you're going to make by Thursday evening, right? Right! You're supposed to be coming out on Friday, and everyone knows what you're going to make by Sunday night!
On a Thursday evening, there are enough clever people out there tapping into clever little boxes, and computers say "D-D-D-D-D," and they're seldom wrong.
Now, that never used to be the case. You used to come out, and films would get discovered. You had a little platform, you start small, and go big—that sort of nonsense. Now you just gotta come out, ball swinging, and if you don't come out—ball swinging, people get very upset, and they think that this is a failure.
It hasn't lived up to expectations, even if it's a creative success. Nobody likes it.
Well, you know, there's a bit of that. You know, there is an acceptance of a movie is good; movie's good and movies find their own way usually in the end anyway. But the financial aspect has become polarized; it's too significant of a component in the equation.
Because it should—you know, it's an art form, right? At the end of the day, it's entertainment and an art form, and somehow you want to unify, reconcile that. Because they're essentially different. Reconciling those—put it in a nice little package.
Put it in a pill with a sweet wrapper around it, and then you got both. And then you should be happy. You should have the substance and you should have the flavor.
But then now the focus is all on the flavor and not on the substance, and that's result-oriented. So your movie comes out; they go, "What did it make?"
Right! Like, slow down, son. What's the movie like? The question, first of all, should be, "What's the movie like?" rather than "What did it make?"
And it's just—it's become too competitive and too comparative financially. And I love a dollar bill, and I like things that are successful, but it has to be secondary to what's primary, and primary is what's it like creatively.
Well, a film like—not to [__] on it—but Fast and the Furious—all I heard about was how much money it made. That's all you hear. It's like the big story, the big Fast and the Furious opening box office—hundreds of millions of dollars—all you see is like, "It's going to make a billion dollars."
Like, why do you give a []? Why does anybody who’s watching that give a []? You're not going to get any of that money!
Why is it so appealing that this movie has made a billion dollars?
Because it's comparative and it's competitive!
Why do people in the audience care?
Because it's voyeristic! Yeah, so you can—it's like spectator sport—who's the winner? Right? You don’t really care about how they won; you just care about the fact that they did win!
Or like a Floyd Mayweather— you want to find out how much money he made; he made $200 million that fight! Woo! People get excited about it.
It's an extra element!
Yeah, there is a sort of vicarious life that people can have through sports stars, celebrities, and success if they feel somehow related to it or they went on the opening weekend or they are invested in it.
Then if it's successful, then somehow it proliferates—I'm successful!
Yeah, that gets weird, right?
It does get weird! Yeah, it's the business of movies; it’s a very, very strange business because you're a creative business, but you're also a business enterprise. I mean, you're a financial business.
And when it's a guy like you, like your movies have a certain flavor. You know, like you start off with Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels. That movie has a flavor to it. And then your other films, like people want to go see that kind of flavor from your film. Do you feel like pressure in that regard, like to live up to those expectations or to conform to these ideas that people have of your movies?
Yes and no—yes and no. It depends what mood you catch me in, right?
Um, I like what I do, and I'm going to do it anyway. I just like it very much when people pay me to do it and give me the money to go and do it. So I don't mind the financial aspect of it; I don't mind films having to compete.
What I'm after is a reconciliation, and as I say, the primary component should be on the quality of the work; that should be what's primary. But I don't grudge films being successful; I like them to be successful.
I like the competitive element, but sometimes when you're talking with executives, you realize, "Mate, your priorities are on the wrong thing here."
In the end, it is a creative medium, and that is what has to be primary.
Do they get in the way of a guy like you though? Like, I would imagine a guy like you, they give you a certain amount of leeway.
They give you all the leeway!
Oh, that's beautiful! Yeah, my experience with studios has been very positive, and they try to encourage hopefully what is your individual idiosyncrasies.
They want you to put your imprint upon the work, and they've been nothing but encouraging in that sense. But you know people portray their agendas whilst you're in conversation, or they portray their priorities.
You want to trust a man because he's a man of substance and to a degree independence, so he’s not looking to me to find himself through me. So you're not asking me to tell you who you are, and that's the ongoing battle of life, right?
We're all asking other people to tell us who we are, right?
And independence from that is a man that could be trusted. I don't want anything from you, and thereby, I can be kind to you because I don’t need to manipulate you. You're no longer a crutch!
Right, so it's got to be very difficult when you're in business with someone like that, especially like an executive, some slick character in a fine suit to find out exactly what his real motives really are.
They're never in fine suits.
Never?
Never!
How do they dress?
In appalling suits! Really? I mean, business—they never encourage fine suits.
No pocket squares! Occasionally, you find a token pocket square, but you can tell their heart's not in it. The wife stuck it in there because she saw someone on TV that had a bit of razzle-dazzle about them, and they thought, "Oh, I quite fancy my old man wearing one of them!" And they stick it in; the old man's a bit embarrassed about it and tries to squeeze it out of the way.
Suits are a thing.
The death of the suit!
It was! The death of the suit was the pragmatic attitude toward "I'm going to work, and I'm going to wear a suit."
Yeah, I'm going to put a tie on, and I don't want to stick out! That's how I feel!
But that's what's happened; we've been brainwashed to not dress like gentlemen!
But I see a guy like you, and I say, "That's appealing!"
Like, look how you're dressed, and you're in a conservative suit—this is a nice suit! Like, I’m sure you could wear any suit you wanted, but you chose a shirt that has a certain look to it.
Yeah, I have spent some time faring around with this, Joe!
But a bit like the same reason that we spent time faring around with the old pocket square. I remember thinking how much I found the suit repugnant, and I became angry that the suit had been robbed from us, and so I had to create an alibi, a way in to understand why it is that I'd like a suit.
This was the magic of Ralph Lauren. The magic of Ralph Lauren! Nice Jewish boy from New York called Lipshitz created a Waspy empire.
There's a wonderful expression that you know: "Think Yiddish, dress British."
Ralph Lauren created this great empire and resold the Waspy world back to the Waspy world.
Oh, he actually not to the Waspy world because in England there was a sort of resentment about Savile Row traditional tailoring because it's been robbed from them. The office had come along; the number crunchers had come along, and there was no creativity in the suit.
A suit needs to be creative. The person that puts it on can't be putting it on because he's told to put it on— he's got to want to put it on.
Ah, so what Ralph did is he fashioned up this sort of quasi-New England world and sold it; he took on a trope, he took on a cliché, and he refashioned that cliché to give it a new sense of life, a new sense of breadth.
He put black people in the suits where traditionally it was just a white man's suit. He made it feel new; he gave it a take.
So what he did is he tipped his hat to the old world but also tipped his hat to the new world, and it allowed WASPs to find their way back into the world with an eloquent narrative. It was clever!
Um, I’m getting fascinated by the way your brain works because for you it's important that the person wants to wear the suit, and I have a feeling that that's sort of symbolic of how you feel about life itself.
Like, the person has to want to be doing what they're doing—they have to want to wear that suit! It has to be an authentic gesture.
Um, did you ever read a book called Extreme Ownership, written by a couple of Navy SEALs?
That's Jocko Willink—right?
No, no, that's—I think it is. Is it Jocko's book?
Yeah, it is! I've had Jocko on the show a bunch of times. Important book!
Well, I've had him on once before. What am I talking about a bunch of times? Right? I've met him once! But important book!
Yes, right! Now, there's lots of books that have picked up on this theme, but they're very eloquent about it: If you don't own something, you're not the boss! You have to take full responsibility for everything that you do!
Why be subservient? You must be the master of your own kingdom!
I feel you! Makes a lot of sense. You've got to own that; you can't just walk into things with your eyes half open. You gotta walk into things with your eyes fully open.
You gotta know what you're getting into! You have to take possession of your life!
Is this a thought process to constantly reaffirm, or is it cemented?
Exactly that! It's exactly that! You drift on this point, right? And it is whatever form of meditation or mantra that you decide to espouse, there needs to be some period in your day where you remember that there's a world out there trying to tell you who you are, and there's a world in here that's trying to tell you who you are.
Now where do you want to put your ex? Because the world outside is very noisy and very tempting, and it has all the razzle-dazzle, all the tinsel, and all the glitter.
It's got all the toys, but that's because you don't think you're enough in the first place!
Ah, if you don't think you're enough in the first place, the whole idea of the world to sell you stuff is, first of all, they have to make you feel bad about yourself, less than in some way.
And I don't resent this system, by the way—it's the system!
But what's the expression about it? "Don't hate the player; hate the game."
Don't hate the game; love the game! Because you're in it! Mate, so own the game, accept the rules, and move on into the rules!
So the world will try and tell you who you are, and you have to tell yourself who you are, and there's this ongoing battle.
And somehow there needs to be a reconciliation between the two. But in the end, you've got to have all the eggs in your basket!
There's also an ongoing internal battle, though, isn't there? There's the you that you want people to think you are, and there's a you who you are.
And trying to figure out, like, how do I figure out who I am?
Like, am I—do I have a correct assumption of how other people are perceiving me, and how I actually am objectively? Or am I bullshitting the world with this suit and pocket square?
Yeah, I would say it's exactly the scenario that we're talking about. There are essentially only two worlds. There's the inner world of energy, and there's the outer world of energy.
There's two identities; one's real, one's false. The external world is, I'm asking you to tell me who I am. That's what we're all playing at.
And as soon as you start playing that game, we run into all sorts of trouble! Call it the ego; call it whatever you want to call it, but that's the dynamic that we're in.
And somehow we have to give ourselves enough confidence to reassure ourselves that we are enough, however we enter the game, because I gotta move on in the world.
I gotta crack on in the world, and I know there's loads of temptations that are going to come along the way! So I will own the suit; I'm going to wear the suit, but I'm going to own the suit.
Now, I don't mean by paying for it; I mean by owning it. It's now my suit! It's my idea to put on this suit! I have to personalize it in some way; I have to understand a narrative that allows me to own that suit!
And thereby I put on my suit of armor and I come out into the world, and guess what? I'm having a good time because I'm owning the suit!
Now, this is a very rock-solid philosophy! Is this something you've ever written down?
It's what the essence of narrative—I'm a storyteller. The essence of narrative is only about this dynamic.
There is nothing else in a story other than this dynamic!
So the struggle between other people's perceptions and your own wants and desires and who you truly are—your significant real self— that's it! That's all there is!
You tell me a story that didn't engage in that's famous, that's not about this journey!
I'll give you an example: the Prodigal Son Parable! Christian! Seems religious, doesn't really make much sense, do you know the story?
Sure!
But why don't you lay it out?
So there's a father; he has two sons—an older son and a younger son. And he says to them, "Who wants to spend their inheritance?" The younger says, "Me, Dad! I'll go spend it!"
And the younger son takes all the money and he runs off and sniffs coke off strippers' tits for a number of years until he realizes, "This is getting pretty boring, and I'm in a lot of trouble."
He ends up feeding, throwing food to pigs, that's his job, and he can't even eat the food that he gives to the pigs! At which point, he says, "Dad, will you take me back?" Dad then goes to— they don't meet; this somehow happens, not through telephones; it just happens!
At which point, Dad goes to the fatty calf, says, "Kill the fatty calf!" Older son says, "Hold on, Dad! What's going on? I've stayed with you since the beginning. I've been loyal to you, and I hear the stories of my younger brother coming back who's been sniffing coke off strippers' tits for the last God knows how many years, and you're prepared to kill the fatty calf? What's the deal, Dad? I want to know the story."
He says, "You're all right, son. Don't worry about that. You take a little side, a little step to the side, you'll always be with me. You’re a good boy."
At which point he goes out to meet the prodigal son—the wasteful son. The wasteful son returns, and he says, "You were lost and now you're found."
That's the end of the story! It's quite hard to make sense of that in a literal sense. You get, "Oh, Dad was a bit unfair! You should have been kind to the oldest son because he never ran off and did anything!"
But the essence of the story is that you are the father. You are enough!
Your older son is your intellect; he says, "Oh, don’t do this; don’t do that!" He's trying to reconcile and make sense of a pragmatic and material world.
The young son, being the wild feral entity that he is, wants to go out in the world and find out what it's all about. So in his recklessness and sense of adventure, he finds that he can't escape himself.
So he has to return to himself, and at which point he has to accept who he is, at which point the intellect is left out of the equation pretty much as the older brother, because he can't understand the significance of the journey of the wasteful brother.
In the end, you have to leave yourself to understand the value of yourself. You have to lose stuff before you realize that all the stuff that you're losing is ephemeral and transitory; it's not yours!
You're enough! You're always enough! But you've got to somehow prostitute yourself before you realize your own value.
That is the essence of all stories!
That's deep, Guy Richie!
Is that something you think about all the time, or is this— I mean, is this like a cemented philosophy?
So, King Arthur—the story you just made: a man is a king, has a son. The father runs into a bit of aggro; the son jumps into a little skiff— not a skillet; that’s what you cook your chops on, isn’t it?
Yeah, a skiff! A little skiff! The skiff takes off down the river; he gets found by prostitutes; he's brought up in a brothel.
He understands the ways of the street; he becomes a king on the street; he works his way out the different ladders. And ultimately, he has to return to himself.
The significance of the extraction from the sword from the stone is that the stone is the material world—the material world, which seems all solid because it controls you whilst you're projecting your sense of identity upon it.
The extraction of the stone is taking back your own authority, your own divinity, your own identity, whatever it is you got to call it—your own power.
You're no longer looking for a sense of self outside of yourself! And then you have to face the demons that you've created.
And by facing them and fighting them and owning them, you put them in the face of who you are, and that's a wrestling match.
You have to take away all these crutches, and that's all that we struggle from in life—taking away our crutches.
"Oh, please tell me who I am!"
"Oh, please give me a bit more money so other people think I'm clever!"
"Oh, and then I have a nice car, and people think I'm clever!"
You gotta take away all these crutches and stand as the man that you are, and you're liberated from your whole thing. That is the story of King Arthur.
But it's not just the story of King Arthur; it's the story of all narrative.
Do you think that most people that are watching the film are going to get that, though? They're just going to get an entertaining story; they're just going to see a bunch of cool stuff, some drama play out. But this is fascinating that you're operating on so many levels underneath it.
Yeah, but I'm a storyteller; it's my business. So if I'm in the business of story, I might as well understand story.
And do you need to understand all that? I'm not sure if you do; it depends where you are on the ladder.
So you can just go along, have a nice bit of entertainment—good guy, bad guy; everything's literal. There's nothing wrong with literalism; it is what it is.
It's the game; you can glean what you can glean when you're ready to glean what you're ready to glean.
Are you a Joseph Campbell fan?
I am a Joseph Campbell fan!
Yeah, yeah! I mean, that's a reoccurring theme in his work— that hero's journey!
Yes! The hero's journey! This underlying sort of narrative that just really guides all stories and all ancient tales, and that there's something inherently human about them, and important about these stories, and they resonate with our wants and needs and goals, and even also maybe the structure that we really truly need in our own life.
Yeah, I mean all stories from whatever period—I'm sympathetic to this particular—I'm sympathetic to Joseph Campbell's philosophy on this, but he's not the only one.
Right, right! The weird thing about religion is that religion has done to the spiritual significance of narrative what the businessman did to the suit—
He's literalized it!
He didn't realize that putting on a suit is putting on a suit of armor; it's putting on something that's rather spectacular! You're just doing it for convention; you're doing it for others! You're not doing it for you!
And in our literal mind, we look at a narrative and we see the narrative for what we believe it to be—the exterior aspect of the narrative.
So we completely—we see the world upside down! We're not actually interested in the essence of the narrative because we're so busy pandering after the approval of others.
So everything that we see, every narrative that we listen to, every film that you see, you're not really interested in its soul; you're interested in its body, because that's what we correspond to!
It's fascinating that you're comparing it to suits because it resonates—like when you think of a guy showing up for work or getting ready for work, and he doesn’t want to go, and he's putting on the suit, and it's just dredging through it and putting it on.
Or you think about a guy who's crisply tucking in his collars and putting on his cufflinks and tightening up his tie, and he feels empowered by the whole process of it.
It's very appealing!
Like if you see it in a film too; it's very exciting! This is a man of purpose!
They did it in Mean Streets; I don't know if you remember Harvey Keitel getting dressed to go up on a front—getting dressed to go out on a Friday night—and it affected a whole generation of people about the way they dress, because he owned it!
Yeah! I never really thought about that until this conversation.
It's not because I—I just—I don't really—I wear suits occasionally, like very, very occasionally.
But you've been robbed!
I've been robbed! You've been robbed! There are so many aspects of life—food for a long time—got robbed from us! And we've slowly managed to claw that back.
It's true!
But clothes, really! You're a 45-year-old guy, and you're still dressing like an 18-year-old! What the C is all that about?
Well, some people like to be comfortable, though!
I get that, by the way! And they like that look!
Comfortable!
Your suit's comfortable!
It's comfortable! Yeah! You can get poured into this completely deconstructed on the inside made by a chap called Brunello. Knows what he's doing.
So these are all handmade!
Um, it won't be handmade, tailored; no, I bought this off the shelf, and I had it a couple of things tweaked.
But it's as comfortable as a pair of pajamas!
Really?
Yeah! So again, you have to break a deal! You can't put on things that are uncomfortable, because guess what happens? In the morning, you're looking through your soups, you go, "Oh I like that one, but I'm going to wear; I'm going to wear the comfortable one!"
Oh, so they all have to be comfortable!
Well, otherwise you're not going to play the game, are you?
I have a thing about ties, though!
Go on!
I can kill someone with a tie on! For sure!
You can kill someone with—100%! If I get a hold of that tie, you're dead, Joe!
This conversation needs to go on for longer than it's going to go on!
That's the thing about ties! You're wearing a rope around your neck.
If someone just gets a deep grab, Joe, what are you thinking about?
Twist! I'm not going to have a fight with anyone!
I'm sure you're not! But it's—I mean, you would have to in a deep disagreement; you'd have to wrestle that sucker loose and take it off to be safe!
I'm not going to indulge this!
You shouldn't!
You shouldn't!
It's my own personal problem; I just feel like someone with a tie on— all you have to do is grab that thing, and that's a wrap!
Like if you went into a Jiu-Jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck, you're a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, right?
I am, yeah!
So don't—you've—I’m sure you've been collar-choked then!
Yeah, you'll be fine for 20 years, Joe! More than 20 years!
This thing around your neck—like really! By the way, my game is I'm all about the gi!
I mean, I played a lot on the gi, but I've come back to the gi, and the reason I've come back to the gi is I'm quite tasty with the gi!
Um, which somehow elegantly segues from the tie!
I mean, I'm all about creating what I call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi and turning that into a thing!
So you're one of those guys that pulls the bottom of the gi and wraps up?
I'm that guy! I'm out there! And I've played this game for a long time, which is the wrapping around the wrist!
Hey, you know, the fingers have got that little dinosaur flippy there, so your arms out of action!
But then I discovered something, Joe; if you slip that gi in through there—
So what he's doing for people just listening, he's tucking it like towards his on the inside of the crook of his elbow.
And once it comes in on the inside, you can't get that hand out again!
That's it, basically, the fight's over from there!
The fight's over from there because you, from then on, own that arm!
It's interesting; we should have a little roll around at the end of this!
Joe, how long have you been training?
20 years.
What belt?
20 years—black belt from Henzo!
Oh, that's legit, man! That's seriously legit!
Do you think most people know that you’ve managed to keep that on the DL a little bit?
Not so much!
Not so much? No?
Well, I think if you ask the average person, "Do you treat this Guy Richie a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu?" they'd go, "No way!"
But does the average man in the street know what a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu is anyway?
I think they do now more than ever!
Well, yeah, probably more now! Well, that's why when I see a guy as experienced as you wearing a tie, I go, "Hmm, maybe you're just super confident about no one being able to get to that tie!"
Joe, I'm not!
What's going on?
Well, I'm a ridiculous person; that's what's going on!
I mean, you have your own ridiculous ideas about owning suits; I have my ideas about getting choked to death wearing a tie!
Like I said, I'm not going—it’s my own personal problem!
I just feel like someone with a tie on—all you have to do is grab that thing, and that's a wrap!
Like if you went into a Jiu-Jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck—you’re a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, right?
I am, yeah!
So don't—you’ve—I've been fine for 20 years!
Joe, more than 20 years! This thing around your neck—like really!
By the way, my game is I'm all about the gi!
I mean, I played a lot on the gi, but I've come back to the gi, and the reason I'm back to the gi is I can—I'm quite tasty with the gi!
Which somehow elegantly segues from the tie!
I mean, I'm all about creating what I call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi and turning that into a thing!
So you're one of those guys that pulls the bottom of the gi and wraps up?
I'm that guy! I'm out there! And I've played this game for a long time, which is the wrapping around the wrist!
You know the fingers, you’ve got that little dinosaur flippy there, so your arm's out of action! But—
Then I discovered something, Joe; if you slip that gi in through there—what he's doing for people just listening—he's tucking it like towards his on the inside of the crook of his elbow.
And once it comes in on the inside, you can't get that hand out again!
That's it; basically, the fight's over from there!
The fight's over from there, 'cause from then on you own that arm!
It's interesting; we should have a little roll around at the end of this, Joe.
How long you been training now?
20 years.
What belt?
20 years—black belt from Henzo!
Oh, that's legit, man! That's seriously legit!
Do you think most people know that you’ve managed to keep that on the DL?
Not so much!
Not so much?
Well, I think if you ask the average person, do you treat this Guy Richie a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu, they’d go, "No!"
Does the average man in the street know what a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu is anyway?
I think they do now more than ever!
Well, yeah, probably more now. Well, that’s why when I see a guy as experienced as you wearing a tie, I go, "Hmm, maybe you're just super confident about no one being able to get to that tie."
Joe, I'm not!
What's going on?
Well, I'm a ridiculous person; that's what's going on!
I mean, you have your own ridiculous ideas about owning suits; I have my ideas about getting choked to death wearing a tie!
Like I said, I'm not going to indulge in this!
You shouldn't; it’s my own personal problem!
I just feel like someone with a tie on—all you have to do is grab that thing, and that's a wrap!
Well, if you went into a Jiu-Jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck, you're a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, right?
I am, yeah!
So don't—you've been fine for 20 years!
Joe, more than 20 years! This thing around your neck—like, really?
By the way, my game is I'm all about the gi!
I mean, I played a lot on the gi, but I've come back to the gi, and the reason I've come back to the gi is I'm quite tasty with it!
Which somehow elegantly segues from the tie!
I mean, I'm all about creating what I call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi and turning that into a thing!
So you're one of those guys that pulls the bottom of the gi and wraps it up!
I'm that guy! I'm out there!
And I've played this game for a long time, which is the wrapping around the wrist! You know the fingers, you’ve got that little dinosaur flippy there, so your arms out of action!
But then I discovered something, Joe; if you slip that gi in through there—what he's doing for people just listening—he's tucking it like towards his on the inside of the crook of his elbow.
And once it comes in on the inside, you can't get that hand out again!
That's it; basically, the fight's over from there!
The fight's over from there, 'cause from then on you own that arm!
It's interesting; we should have a little roll around at the end of this!
So, Joe, how long have you been training?
20 years.
What belt?
20 years—black belt from Henzo!
Oh, that's legit, man! That's seriously legit!
Do you think most people know that you’ve managed to keep that on the DL?
Not so much!
Not so much?
Well, I think if you ask the average person, do you treat this Guy Richie a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu, they’d go, "No!"
Does the average man in the street know what a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu is anyway?
I think they do now more than ever!
Well, yeah, probably more now.
Well, that's why when I see a guy as experienced as you wearing a tie, I go, "Hmm, maybe you're just super confident about no one being able to get to that tie!"
Joe, I'm not!
What's going on?
Well, I'm a ridiculous person; that's what's going on!
I mean, you have your own ridiculous ideas about owning suits; I have my ideas about getting choked to death wearing a tie!
Like I said, I'm not going to indulge in this!
You shouldn't; it’s my own personal problem!
I just feel like someone with a tie on—all you have to do is grab that thing, and that's a wrap! Well, if you went into a Jiu-Jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck, you're a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, right?
I am, yeah!
So don't—you've been fine for 20 years!
Joe, more than 20 years! This thing around your neck—like, really?
By the way, my game is I'm all about the gi! I mean, I played a lot on the gi, but I've come back to the gi, and the reason I've come back to the gi is I'm quite tasty with it!
Which somehow elegantly segues from the tie!
I mean, I'm all about creating what I call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi and turning that into a thing!
So you're one of those guys that pulls the bottom of the gi and wraps it up!
I'm that guy! I'm out there!
And I've played this game for a long time, which is the wrapping around the wrist! You know the fingers, you’ve got that little dinosaur flippy there, so your arm's out of action!
But then I discovered something, Joe; if you slip that gi in through there—What he's doing for people just listening—he's tucking it like towards his on the inside of the crook of his elbow.
And once it comes in on the inside, you can't get that hand out again!
That's it; basically, the fight's over from there!
The fight's over from there, 'cause from then on, you own that arm!
It's interesting; we should have a little roll around at the end of this!
So, Joe, how long have you been training?
20 years.
What belt?
20 years—black belt from Henzo!
Oh, that's legit, man! That's seriously legit!
Do you think most people know that you’ve managed to keep that on the DL a little bit?
Not so much!
Not so much?
Well, I think if you ask the average person, "Do you treat this Guy Richie a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu?" they’d go, "No!"
Does the average man in the street know what a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu is anyway?
I think they do now more than ever!
Well, yeah, probably more now!
Well, that's why when I see a guy as experienced as you wearing a tie, I go, "Hmm, maybe you're just super confident about no one being able to get to that tie!"
Joe, I'm not!
What's going on?
Well, I'm a ridiculous person; that's what's going on!
I mean, you have your own ridiculous ideas about owning suits; I have my ideas about getting choked to death wearing a tie!
Like I said, I'm not going to indulge in this!
You shouldn't; it’s my own personal problem!
I just feel like someone with a tie on—all you have to do is grab that thing, and that's a wrap!
Now, if you went into a Jiu-Jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck, you're a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, right?
I am, yeah!
So don't—you've been fine for 20 years!
Joe, more than 20 years! This thing around your neck—like, really?
By the way, my game is I'm all about the gi!
I mean, I played a lot on the gi, but I've come back to the gi, and the reason I've come back to the gi is I'm quite tasty with it!
Which somehow elegantly segues from the tie!
I mean, I'm all about creating what I call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi and turning that into a thing!
So you're one of those guys that pulls the bottom of the gi and wraps up?
I'm that guy! I'm out there!
And I’ve played this game for a long time, which is the wrapping around the wrist!
You know the fingers, you’ve got that little dinosaur flippy there, so your arms out of action!
But then I discovered something, Joe; if you slip that gi in through there—what he's doing for people just listening—he's tucking it like towards his on the inside of the crook of his elbow.
And once it comes in on the inside, you can't get that hand out again!
That's it; basically, the fight's over from there!
The fight's over from there, 'cause from then on, you own that arm!
It's interesting; we should have a little roll around at the end of this!
So, Joe, how long have you been training?
20 years.
What belt?
20 years—black belt from Henzo!
Oh, that's legit, man! That's seriously legit!
Do you think most people know that you’ve managed to keep that on the DL a little bit?
Not so much!
Not so much?
Well, I think if you ask the average person, "Do you treat this Guy Richie a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu?" they’d go, "No!"
Does the average man in the street know what a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu is anyway?
I think they do now more than ever!
Well, yeah, probably more now!
Well, that's why when I see a guy as experienced as you wearing a tie, I go, "Hmm, maybe you're just super confident about no one being able to get to that tie!"
Joe, I'm not!
What's going on?
Well, I'm a ridiculous person; that's what's going on!
I mean, you have your own ridiculous ideas about owning suits; I have my ideas about getting choked to death wearing a tie!
Like I said, I'm not going to indulge in this!
You shouldn't; it’s my own personal problem!
I just feel like someone with a tie on—all you have to do is grab that thing, and that's a wrap!
Like if you went into a Jiu-Jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck, you're a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, right?
I am, yeah!
So don't—you’ve been fine for 20 years!
Joe, more than 20 years!
This thing around your neck—like, really?
By the way, my game is I'm all about the gi!
I mean, I played a lot on the gi, but I've come back to the gi, and the reason I've come back to the gi is I'm quite tasty with it!
Which somehow elegantly segues from the tie!
I mean, I'm all about creating what I call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi and turning that into a thing!
So you're one of those guys that pulls the bottom of the gi and wraps up?
I'm that guy! I'm out there!
And I’ve played this game for a long time, which is the wrapping around the wrist! You know the fingers, you’ve got that little dinosaur flippy there, so your arms out of action!
But then I discovered something, Joe; if you slip that gi in through there—what he's doing for people just listening—he's tucking it like towards his on the inside of the crook of his elbow.
And once it comes in on the inside, you can't get that hand out again!
That's it; basically, the fight's over from there!
The fight's over from there, 'cause from then on, you own that arm!
It's interesting; we should have a little roll around at the end of this!
So, Joe, how long have you been training?
20 years.
What belt?
20 years—black belt from Henzo!
Oh, that's legit, man! That's seriously legit!
Do you think most people know that you’ve managed to keep that on the DL?
Not so much!
Not so much?
Well, I think if you ask the average person, "Do you treat this Guy Richie a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu?" they’d go, "No!"
Does the average man in the street know what a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu is anyway?
I think they do now more than ever!
Well, yeah, probably more now!
Well, that's why when I see a guy as experienced as you wearing a tie, I go, "Hmm, maybe you're just super confident about no one being able to get to that tie!"
Joe, I'm not!
What's going on?
Well, I'm a ridiculous person; that's what's going on!
I mean, you have your own ridiculous ideas about owning suits; I have my ideas about getting choked to death wearing a tie!
Like I said, I'm not going to indulge in this!
You shouldn't; it’s my own personal problem!
I just feel like someone with a tie on—all you have to do is grab that thing, and that's a wrap!
Now, if you went into a Jiu-Jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck, you're a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, right?
I am, yeah!
So don't—you've been fine for 20 years!
Joe, more than 20 years!
This thing around your neck—like, really?
By the way, my game is I'm all about the gi!
I mean, I played a lot on the gi, but I've come back to the gi, and the reason I've come back to the gi is I'm quite tasty with it!
Which somehow elegantly segues from the tie!
I mean, I'm all about creating what I call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi and turning that into a thing!
So you're one of those guys that pulls the bottom of the gi and wraps up?
I'm that guy! I'm out there!
And I’ve played this game for a long time, which is the wrapping around the wrist!
You know the fingers, you’ve got that little dinosaur flippy there, so your arms out of action!
But then I discovered something, Joe; if you slip that gi in through there—what he's doing for people just listening—he's tucking it like towards his on the inside of the crook of his elbow.
And once it comes in on the inside, you can't get that hand out again!
That's it; basically, the fight's over from there!
The fight's over from there, 'cause from then on, you own that arm!
It's interesting; we should have a little roll around at the end of this!
So, Joe, how long have you been training?
20 years.
What belt?
20 years—black belt from Henzo!
Oh, that's legit, man! That's seriously legit!
Do you think most people know that you’ve managed to keep that on the DL?
Not so much!
Not so much?
Well, I think if you ask the average person, "Do you treat this Guy Richie a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu?" they’d go, "No!"
Does the average man in the street know what a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu is anyway?
I think they do now more than ever!
Well, yeah, probably more now!
Well, that's why when I see a guy as experienced as you wearing a tie, I go, "Hmm, maybe you're just super confident about no one being able to get to that tie!"
Joe, I'm not!
What's going on?
Well, I'm a ridiculous person; that's what's going on!
I mean, you have your own ridiculous ideas about owning suits; I have my ideas about getting choked to death wearing a tie!
Like I said, I'm not going to indulge in this!
You shouldn't; it’s my own personal problem!
I just feel like someone with a tie on—all you have to do is grab that thing, and that's a wrap!
Now, if you went into a Jiu-Jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck, you're a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, right?
I am, yeah!
So don't—you’ve been fine for 20 years!
Joe, more than 20 years!
This thing around your neck—like, really?
By the way, my game is I'm all about the gi!
I mean, I played a lot on the gi, but I've come back to the gi, and the reason I've come back to the gi is I'm quite tasty with it!
Which somehow elegantly segues from the tie!
I mean, I'm all about creating what I call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi and turning that into a thing!
So you're one of those guys that pulls the bottom of the gi and wraps up?
I'm that guy! I'm out there!
And I’ve played this game for a long time, which is the wrapping around the wrist!
You know the fingers, you’ve got that little dinosaur flippy there, so your arms out of action!
But then I discovered something, Joe; if you slip that gi in through there—what he's doing for people just listening—he's tucking it like towards his on the inside of the crook of his elbow.
And once it comes in on the inside, you can't get that hand out again!
That's it; basically, the fight's over from there!
The fight's over from there, 'cause from then on, you own that arm!
It's interesting; we should have a little roll around at the end of this!
So, Joe, how long have you been training?
20 years.
What belt?
20 years—black belt from Henzo!
Oh, that's legit, man! That's seriously legit!
Do you think most people know that you’ve managed to keep that on the DL?
Not so much!
Not so much?
Well, I think if you ask the average person, "Do you treat this Guy Richie a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu?" they’d go, "No!"
Does the average man in the street know what a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu is anyway?
I think they do now more than ever!
Well, yeah, probably more now!
Well, that's why when I see a guy as experienced as you wearing a tie, I go, "Hmm, maybe you're just super confident about no one being able to get to that tie!"
Joe, I'm not!
What's going on?
Well, I'm a ridiculous person; that's what's going on!
I mean, you have your own ridiculous ideas about owning suits; I have my ideas about getting choked to death wearing a tie!
Like I said, I'm not going to indulge in this!
You shouldn't; it’s my own personal problem!
I just feel like someone with a tie on—all you have to do is grab that thing, and that's a wrap!
Now if you went into a Jiu-Jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck, you're a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, right?
I am, yeah!
So don't—you’ve been fine for 20 years!
Joe, more than 20 years!
This thing around your neck—like, really?
By the way, my game is I'm all about the gi!
I mean, I played a lot on the gi, but I've come back to the gi, and the reason I've come back to the gi is I'm quite tasty with it!
Which somehow elegantly segues from the tie!
I mean, I'm all about creating what I call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi and turning that into a thing!
So you're one of those guys that pulls the bottom of the gi and wraps it up?
I'm that guy! I'm out there!
And I’ve played this game for a long time, which is the wrapping around the wrist!
You know the fingers, you’ve got that little dinosaur flippy there, so your arms out of action!
But then I discovered something, Joe; if you slip that gi in through there—what he's doing for people just listening—he's tucking it like towards his on the inside of the crook of his elbow.
And once it comes in on the inside, you can't get that hand out again!
That's it; basically, the fight's over from there!
The fight's over from there, 'cause from then on, you own that arm!
It's interesting; we should have a little roll around at the end of this!
So, Joe, how long have you been training?
20 years.
What belt?
20 years—black belt from Henzo!
Oh, that's legit, man! That's seriously legit!
Do you think most people know that you’ve managed to keep that on the DL?
Not so much!
Not so much?
Well, I think if you ask the average person, "Do you treat this Guy Richie a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu?" they’d go, "No!"
Does the average man in the street know what a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu is anyway?
I think they do now more than ever!
Well, yeah, probably more now!
Well, that's why when I see a guy as experienced as you wearing a tie, I go, "Hmm, maybe you're just super confident about no one being able to get to that tie!"
Joe, I'm not!
What's going on?
Well, I'm a ridiculous person; that's what's going on!
I mean, you have your own ridiculous ideas about owning suits; I have my ideas about getting choked to death wearing a tie!
Like I said, I'm not going to indulge in this!
You shouldn't; it’s my own personal problem!
I just feel like someone with a tie on—all you have to do is grab that thing, and that's a wrap!
Now if you went into a Jiu-Jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck, you're a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, right?
I am, yeah!
So don't—you’ve been fine for 20 years!
Joe, more than 20 years!
This thing around your neck—like, really?
By the way, my game is I'm all about the gi!
I mean, I played a lot on the gi, but I've come back to the gi, and the reason I've come back to the gi is I'm quite tasty with it!
Which somehow elegantly segues from the tie!
I mean, I'm all about creating what I call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi and turning that into a thing!
So you're one of those guys that pulls the bottom of the gi and wraps it up?
I'm that guy! I'm out there!
And I’ve played this game for a long time, which is the wrapping around the wrist!
You know the fingers, you’ve got that little dinosaur flippy there, so your arms out of action!
But then I discovered something, Joe; if you slip that gi in through there—what he's doing for people just listening—he's tucking it like towards his on the inside of the crook of his elbow.
And once it comes in on the inside, you can't get that hand out again!
That's it; basically, the fight's over from there!
The fight's over from there, 'cause from then on, you own that arm!
It's interesting; we should have a little roll around at the end of this!
So, Joe, how long have you been training?
20 years.
What belt?
20 years—black belt from Henzo!
Oh, that's legit, man! That's seriously legit!
Do you think most people know that you’ve managed to keep that on the DL?
Not so much!
Not so much?
Well, I think if you ask the average person, "Do you treat this Guy Richie a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu?" they’d go, "No!"
Does the average man in the street know what a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu is anyway?
I think they do now more than ever!
Well, yeah, probably more now!
Well, that's why when I see a guy as experienced as you wearing a tie, I go, "Hmm, maybe you're just super confident about no one being able to get to that tie!"
Joe, I'm not!
What's going on?
Well, I'm a ridiculous person; that's what's going on!
I mean, you have your own ridiculous ideas about owning suits; I have my ideas about getting choked to death wearing a tie!
Like I said, I'm not going to indulge in this!
You shouldn't; it’s my own personal problem!
I just feel like someone with a tie on—all you have to do is grab that thing, and that's a wrap!
Now if you went into a Jiu-Jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck, you're a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, right?
I am, yeah!
So don't—you’ve been fine for 20 years!
Joe, more than 20 years!
This thing around your neck—like, really?
By the way, my game is I'm all about the gi!
I mean, I played a lot on the gi, but I've come back to the gi, and the reason I've come back to the gi is I'm quite tasty with it!
Which somehow elegantly segues from the tie!
I mean, I'm all about creating what I call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi and turning that into a thing!
So you're one of those guys that pulls the bottom of the gi and wraps it up?
I'm that guy! I'm out there!
And I’ve played this game for a long time, which is the wrapping around the wrist!
You know the fingers, you’ve got that little dinosaur flippy there, so your arms out of action!
But then I discovered something, Joe; if you slip that gi in through there—what he's doing for people just listening—he's tucking it like towards his on the inside of the crook of his elbow.
And once it comes in on the inside, you can't get that hand out again!
That's it; basically, the fight's over from there!
The fight's over from there, 'cause from then on, you own that arm!
It's interesting; we should have a little roll around at the end of this!
So, Joe, how long have you been training?
20 years.
What belt?
20 years—black belt from Henzo!
Oh, that's legit, man! That's seriously legit!
Do you think most people know that you’ve managed to keep that on the DL?
Not so much!
Not so much?
Well, I think if you ask the average person, "Do you treat this Guy Richie a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu?" they’d go, "No!"
Does the average man in the street know what a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu is anyway?
I think they do now more than ever!
Well, yeah, probably more now!
Well, that's why when I see a guy as experienced as you wearing a tie, I go, "Hmm, maybe you're just super confident about no one being able to get to that tie!"
Joe, I'm not!
What's going on?
Well, I'm a ridiculous person; that's what's going on!
I mean, you have your own ridiculous ideas about owning suits; I have my ideas about getting choked to death wearing a tie!
Like I said, I'm not going to indulge in this!
You shouldn't; it’s my own personal problem!
I just feel like someone with a tie on—all you have to do is grab that thing, and that's a wrap!
Now if you went into a Jiu-Jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck, you're a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, right?
I am, yeah!
So don't—you’ve been fine for 20 years!
Joe, more than 20 years!
This thing around your neck—like, really?
By the way, my game is I'm all about the gi!
I mean, I played a lot on the gi, but I've come back to the gi, and the reason I've come back to the gi is I'm quite tasty with it!
Which somehow elegantly segues from the tie!
I mean, I'm all about creating what I call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi and turning that into a thing!
So you're one of those guys that pulls the bottom of the gi and wraps it up?
I'm that guy! I'm out there!
And I’ve played this game for a long time, which is the wrapping around the wrist!
You know the fingers, you’ve got that little dinosaur flippy there, so your arms out of action!
But then I discovered something, Joe; if you slip that gi in through there—what he's doing for people just listening—he's tucking it like towards his on the inside of the crook of his elbow.
And once it comes in on the inside, you can't get that hand out again!
That's it; basically, the fight's over from there!
The fight's over from there, 'cause from then on, you own that arm!
It's interesting; we should have a little roll around at the end of this!
So, Joe, how long have you been training?
20 years.
What belt?
20 years—black belt from Henzo!
Oh, that's legit, man! That's seriously legit!
Do you think most people know that you’ve managed to keep that on the DL?
Not so much!
Not so much?
Well, I think if you ask the average person, "Do you treat this Guy Richie a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu?" they’d go, "No!"
Does the average man in the street know what a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu is anyway?
I think they do now more than ever!
Well, yeah, probably more now!
Well, that's why when I see a guy as experienced as you wearing a tie, I go, "Hmm, maybe you're just super confident about no one being able to get to that tie!"
Joe, I'm not!
What's going on?
Well, I'm a ridiculous person; that's what's going on!
I mean, you have your own ridiculous ideas about owning suits; I have my ideas about getting choked to death wearing a tie!
Like I said, I'm not going to indulge in this!
You shouldn't; it’s my own personal problem!
I just feel like someone with a tie on—all you have to do is grab that thing, and that's a wrap!
Now if you went into a Jiu-Jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck, you're a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, right?
I am, yeah!
So don't—you’ve been fine for 20 years!
Joe, more than 20 years!
This thing around your neck—like, really?
By the way, my game is I'm all about the gi!
I mean, I played a lot on the gi, but I've come back to the gi, and the reason I've come back to the gi is I'm quite tasty with it!
Which somehow elegantly segues from the tie!
I mean, I'm all about creating what I call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi and turning that into a thing!
So you're one of those guys that pulls the bottom of the gi and wraps it up?
I'm that guy! I'm out there!
And I’ve played this game for a long time, which is the wrapping around the wrist!
You know the fingers, you’ve got that little dinosaur flippy there, so your arms out of action!
But then I discovered something, Joe; if you slip that gi in through there—what he's doing for people just listening—he's tucking it like towards his on the inside of the crook of his elbow.
And once it comes in on the inside, you can't get that hand out again!
That's it; basically, the fight's over from there!
The fight's over from there, 'cause from then on you own that arm!
It's interesting; we should have a little roll-around at the end of this!
So, Joe, how long have you been training?
20 years.
What belt?
20 years—black belt from Henzo!
Oh, that's legit, man! That's seriously legit!
Do you think most people know that you’ve managed to keep that on the DL a little bit?
Not so much!
Not so much?
Well, I think if you ask the average person, "Do you treat this Guy Richie a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu?" they’d go, "No!"
Does the average man in the street know what a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu is anyway?
I think they do now more than ever!
Well, yeah, probably more now!
Well, that's why when I see a guy as experienced as you wearing a tie, I go, "Hmm, maybe you're just super confident about no one being able to get to that tie!"
Joe, I'm not!
What's going on?
Well, I'm a ridiculous person; that's what's going on!
I mean, you have your own ridiculous ideas about owning suits; I have my ideas about getting choked to death wearing a tie!
Like I said, I'm not going to indulge in this!
You shouldn't; it’s my own personal problem!
I just feel like someone with a tie on—all you have to do is grab that thing, and that's a wrap!
Now if you went into a Jiu-Jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck, you're a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, right?
I am, yeah!
So don't—you’ve been fine for 20 years!
Joe, more than 20 years!
This thing around your neck—like, really?
By the way, my game is I'm all about the gi!
I mean, I played a lot on the gi, but I've come back to the gi, and the reason I've come back to the gi is I'm quite tasty with it!
Which somehow elegantly segues from the tie!
I mean, I'm all about creating what I call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi and turning that into a thing!
So you're one of those guys that pulls the bottom of the gi and wraps it up?
I'm that guy! I'm out there!
And I’ve played this game for a long time, which is the wrapping around the wrist!
You know the fingers, you’ve got that little dinosaur flippy there, so your arms out of action!
But then I discovered something, Joe; if you slip that gi in through there—what he's doing for people just listening—he's tucking it like towards his on the inside of the crook of his elbow.
And once it comes in on the inside, you can't get that hand out again!
That's it; basically, the fight's over from there!
The fight's over from there, 'cause from then on you own that arm!
It's interesting; we should have a little roll around at the end of this!
So, Joe, how long have you been training?
20 years.
What belt?
20 years—black belt from Henzo!
Oh, that's legit, man! That's seriously legit!
Do you think most people know that you’ve managed to keep that on the DL a little bit?
Not so much!
Not so much?
Well, I think if you ask the average person, "Do you treat this Guy Richie a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu?" they’d go, "No!"
Does the average man in the street know what a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu is anyway?
I think they do now more than ever!
Well, yeah, probably more now!
Well, that's why when I see a guy as experienced as you wearing a tie, I go, "Hmm, maybe you're just super confident about no one being able to get to that tie!"
Joe, I'm not!
What's going on?
Well, I'm a ridiculous person; that's what's going on!
I mean, you have your own ridiculous ideas about owning suits; I have my ideas about getting choked to death wearing a tie!
Like I said, I'm not going to indulge in this!
You shouldn't; it’s my own personal problem!
I just feel like someone with a tie on—all you have to do is grab that thing, and that's a wrap!
Now if you went into a Jiu-Jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck, you're a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, right?
I am, yeah!
So don't—you’ve been fine for 20 years!
Joe, more than 20 years!
This thing around your neck—like, really?
By the way, my game is I'm all about the gi!
I mean, I played a lot on the gi, but I've come back to the gi, and the reason I've come back to the gi is I'm quite tasty with it!
Which somehow elegantly segues from the tie!
I mean, I'm all about creating what I call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi and turning that into a thing!
So you're one of those guys that pulls the bottom of the gi and wraps it up?
I'm that guy! I'm out there!
And I’ve played this game for a long time, which is the wrapping around the wrist!
You know the fingers, you’ve got that little dinosaur flippy there, so your arms out of action!
But then I discovered something, Joe; if you slip that gi in through there—what he's doing for people just listening—he's tucking it like towards his on the inside of the crook of his elbow.
And once it comes in on the inside, you can't get that hand out again!
That's it; basically, the fight's over from there!
The fight's over from there, 'cause from then on you own that arm!
It's interesting; we should have a little roll around at the end of this!
So, Joe, how long have you been training?
20 years.
What belt?
20 years—black belt from Henzo!
Oh, that's legit, man! That's seriously legit!
Do you think most people know that you’ve managed to keep that on the DL a little bit?
Not so much!
Not so much?
Well, I think if you ask the average person, "Do you treat this Guy Richie a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu?" they’d go, "No!"
Does the average man in the street know what a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu is anyway?
I think they do now more than ever!
Well, yeah, probably more now!