'Hey Bill Nye, Why Don't Computers Allow Us to Talk Directly to Animals?' #TuesdaysWithBill
Hey Bill. I’m a big fan of your work. This is Hassa from Tunisia. I’m at the University of Freiburg in Germany. My question for you today is how can it be that human beings still can’t communicate with animals? I mean we have powerful computers by now. Isn’t it just easier to just record a lot of data, let the computers look for a pattern and play them back and it allows the responses. Imagine all the implications. Animals can become better tools for us or even closer friends. And can even ask them what their perspective of life is. I hope you answer my question. Have a nice day.
Hello, hello. Hassick? Did I pronounce it correctly? I’m doing my best. I only heard it once and the sound is not too good. Hassick, greetings. Thank you for your question. Can we communicate with animals better than we do now? Well I’ve spent a lot of time with dogs and I really have a sense of what they’re thinking. I certainly have a sense of when they’re happy and when they’re sad. I’ve spent a little bit of time with gorillas. Now I’m talking about a tiny amount of time. But you can certainly tell when a gorilla is happy, when a gorilla is angry and you can also tell when gorillas are communicating with each other.
Now this is one of the things I wonder about all the time. Is there a gradient, is there an increasing stair step of intelligence, of language skill between let’s say a gibbon, a bonobo, a gorilla, a chimpanzee, a human? Is there a gradient of intelligence from cow to horse to zebra to giraffe? I don’t know but these animals certainly—the mammals anyway—certainly have emotions that we can detect and interact with. But I’m very skeptical so far that animals really ponder the universe and our place within it. And I’m very skeptical that bonobos or chimpanzees have developed something like the periodic table of the elements.
However, with that said, if you ever saw the movie UP, which is an animated move, I think the word poignant in English would be very descriptive. It’s bittersweet but there’s a fabulous scientific premise, a science fiction premise where the inventor has a collar that enables dogs to speak English. It’s fabulous. And I don’t know, maybe they translated it into German and you watched it in German. But wouldn’t that be fun if you could talk to dogs in English or human language sentences? Wouldn’t that just be the most fun ever?
But I’m skeptical—just for example, when a human dies we go to all kinds of trouble. We’ve got funeral homes and cemeteries. But when a primate dies there is apparently a period of mourning in the troop or the barrel of monkeys, of chimpanzees, but then they get over it much more quickly than humans do. And I wonder, is that for evolution like they have to get over it in order to go forage for food and get on with their lives? Or is their memory of it just kind of not as intense as humans because they don’t have a language that reinforces this person’s memory and the interactions you have with your fellow primate? I wonder this.
So to answer your question, I am absolutely not sure. But intuitively it seems like this gradient of intelligence would limit the amount that we could talk with animals. Now, by the way, I don’t know if you’ve ever been into Aquaman. He can talk to fish. He talks to fish. Tarzan, king of the jungle, talks to all his animal guys, people, animal friends. They’re not people. And so that is certainly something humans have thought about for centuries or those myths wouldn’t exist.
Hassick, one more thing about using computers to communicate with animals. Keep in mind that the computers have to be programmed. Somebody would have to—at least early here in the twenty-first century—computers are not self-organizing enough to decide to make a program to communicate with animals. But in the ornithology community, people who study birds, they work really hard to understand bird calls. They record them, reproduce them, try to communicate with birds. Certainly, people try to imitate whale sounds and marine mammal sounds. But I don’t think it’s to the point where anybody has taken a meeting with them and talking about the fundamental theorem of calculus or the rocket equation or how to raise crops underwater or whatever it is.
So I’m interested in this gradient of intelligence and it’ll be up to you to write the computer program that enables this idea of yours. The answer is definitely maybe.