yego.me
💡 Stop wasting time. Read Youtube instead of watch. Download Chrome Extension

I study demonic possession dreams. Here’s what we’ve found. | Patrick McNamara


4m read
·Nov 3, 2024

  • So I've been arguing that REM sleep is crucial for religious consciousness and for human creative capacities and for human cultural evolution, but when it goes off the rails, it's associated with a lot of very serious disorders as well—everything from depression to isolated sleep paralysis and nightmares in particular.

Now a "nightmare" is defined by most sleep medicine specialists as simply a scary, terrifying dream that wakes you up. A lot of other sleep medicine specialists say, "Well, it doesn't need to wake you up." If you have a really terrifying dream, that's a nightmare. And we know that nightmares tend to occur during REM sleep.

And we know that lots of kids go through a phase where they have lots of nightmares, and then they sort of disappear for most people. But the people who are vulnerable to nightmares have sort of a disinhibited form of REM neurobiologies. REM tends to erupt into their waking consciousness a little bit, and they get these dissociative states during the daytime and, unfortunately, nightmares during the night.

So, nightmares for the most part, there's nothing good about them, and I just wanna underline the fact that there are very good treatments. You don't have to suffer from nightmares. But from the point of view of somebody investigating religious consciousness, nightmares are particularly important because for most people who have nightmares, supernatural agents appear, and for many of them, particularly for people with religious backgrounds, those supernatural agents will be demonic agents.

And unfortunately, those demonic agents really have very specific, enduring effects on this person's suffering from nightmares. There are many examples, but when you look at series of nightmares over time, one common pattern is that before the series of nightmares begin, a demon appears just in the room. The person has a nightmare and they say, "I woke up from the dream and, wow, there's this weird demon in my room. But he was just there, he wasn't doing anything. It scared me, and I woke up."

And then a week later, they'll have a very similar dream with the same demon, and the demon will now be near the bed. No longer in the corner of the room, but near the bed. The third week I have the nightmare again, it's a very similar nightmare, and now the demonic agent knows that the dreamer is aware of them, and so the demonic agent ups his game and tries to get closer and closer to the individual having the nightmare.

And so the individual starts to put up barriers to protect themselves. In an individual who's particularly vulnerable to nightmares, these barriers will eventually not work. And they need to get clinical help before that happens because in many cases, the demonic agent is out to possess the individual's consciousness.

And the individual will wake up. I mean, if you look at case studies of demonic possession, they invariably occur after a series of nightmares and then finally the demonic agent in the nightmare possesses the individual's consciousness, and they wake up in a possessed state.

And then you need, you know, like, exorcism rituals to get rid of the demonic agent. So those are some of the ways in which nightmares teach us about supernatural agents and religious consciousness, and why, obviously, you do not wanna have nightmares.

However, nightmares have been around, we're almost certain, for many thousands of years. We have evidence that people who experience frequent nightmares but are able to control them and able to control the demonic agent in traditional tribal societies gain great social status, 'cause who can be more powerful than a person who can control a demonic agent?

The nightmares mark them off as special human beings that the divine has called them in a special way, and only somebody who's strong enough to deal with those demonic agents are called to be a shaman or a spiritual guide for others. So, that's how people with nightmares in traditional societies were held, you know, in special, high regard because they carried this special burden.

So, nightmares tell us a lot about religious consciousness and about REM neurobiology. One of the things they tell us about REM neurobiology is REM has special, computational, neurological machinery to handle trauma. We think that the fear extinction circuit in REM sleep functions differently during a nightmare than during an ordinary dream, and the reason why the fear extinction circuit, the computational machinery that's used to handle emotional traumas, doesn't function well is that the fear extinction circuit breaks down at a certain gate—it's blocked for some reason in some individuals.

And because the brain uses REM sleep to handle traumas, and when that trauma can't be handled effectively, immediately the trauma memories hang around in REM sleep, and you get PTSD. So, every night the individual continually tries to integrate the trauma into long-term memory stores and then get rid of it.

And that's why REM is so crucial for getting through calamities and plagues and all kinds of horrible events because it's nature's special way to handle emotional trauma.

More Articles

View All
15 Decisions You WONT Regret 20 Years From Now
Hey there, my friend. Now, this is the second part of a video we did a couple of weeks ago where we talked about the decisions you will regret 20 years from now. Just like it’s hard to see how these bad decisions will play out in the long term, the revers…
The Side Effects of Vaccines - How High is the Risk?
Vaccines are celebrated for their part in fighting disease. But, a growing group of people seem to believe that they endanger our health, instead of protecting it. The Internet is full of stories about allergic reactions, the onset of disabilities, and ev…
Held at gunpoint while selling a private jet!
The first jet I ever sold in my life, I was held at gunpoint three feet away from me. It’s a long story. The first time I saw the jet, I was 23 years old. I flew to America, to North Carolina. We were signing a deal with the Venezuelan buyer. He had two …
Simone Giertz on Her Robots and Returning to Work After Brain Surgery
All right, Simone, yecch! Welcome to the podcast. Hey, thanks for having me! How you doing? I’m great! I’m really excited to, like, be invited to Y Combinator. I’ve followed you for a very long time, and I’m like, this is where it happens. Yeah, I wou…
Solving system with elimination | Algebra | Khan Academy
So we have a system of two linear equations here. This first equation, (x - 4y = 8), and the second equation, (-x + 3y = 11). Now what we’re going to do is find an (x) and (y) pair that satisfies both of these equations. That’s what solving the system act…
Travel INSIDE a Black Hole
Hey, Vsauce. Michael here. And today we are going to go inside a black hole. It’s not going to be comfortable, but it will be pretty fun. Now, first thing’s first: mathematically speaking, anything could become a black hole if you were to compress it int…