Joe Rogan Experience #1069 - Ben Greenfield

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Ben Greenfield ladies and gentlemen and Robo. Hey yo! So, it's been a lot of fun hanging out with you for the last forty-four minutes. That's a sick game, you know? Yeah, it's pretty fun, right? I need to build a really, really big like 67-yard long living room to put my big screen in now. Yeah, that thing is crazy. This, we're talking about this game called Techno Hunt.

Dude, you are an interesting [ __ ] guy. You do a lot of weird [ __ ]. I wouldn't know. Thank you! I think. Yeah, no, it's good. Yes, it's a compliment. I like it. Yeah, interesting is a good thing. But your, um, like your background, you were just telling me this is very fascinating. Like, you live way the [ __ ] out in the middle of nowhere?

Well, it's caught—it's kind of, I mean, it's Spokane, right? Spokane. I mean, we have like a theater off the grid, and we have restaurants. There are actual people that new restaurant. Yeah, there's a theater, there's a little five-and-dime store at a general store. Spokane's a normal place, it's pretty—no, you're totally off the grid.

Well, up at our house, we are, you know, we're solar panels and—well, and the way I have it set up is we eased in power from the local municipal power, but if that goes out, then it hits the solar inverters, and we're full solar. So, then there's like a battery panel in the garage that stores the solar because we're on like a north-facing slope, so you get sun from 10:00 to 2:00. So, we can't collect a lot of solar, but you store it in the battery, so it's there. So, you got to be very judicious with—yeah, your laptop is—yeah, well it's a stupid home, so there's no Wi-Fi, there's no Bluetooth, so everything's like—it's hardwired metal shielded Ethernet cable throughout the whole house because I don't like to have like Wi-Fi signals bouncing around. It's really—I don't feel good.

What is that doing to us? Well, actually, just read—there's a really good new book that came out, it's called like—the non-tinfoil hat guide to EMF, I think he's a fool time of the book. But it goes into this idea of what are called voltage-gated calcium channels on your cell membrane, and those actually get affected by Wi-Fi. And apparently, you see like a change in the electrochemical balance across the actual membrane in response to things like Wi-Fi. Apparently, Bluetooth affects red blood cells, and I haven't seen a lot of like actual, you know, in vivo research on that, but I know that I feel better when I don't have like the Wi-Fi router going or, you know, I turn everything off at night. There's kill switches in all the bedrooms.

So, it's big. You walk into the house and it's just super clean. No, everything's HEPA air filters, negative ion generators, no Wi-Fi, no Bluetooth. We structure all the water that comes in from the well, so it's the same. It's got like—that—have you heard of structured water? Bravo just got that installed in his jen, it's kind of cool.

I mean, the idea behind it, there's this Caterpie university of Washington named Dr. Gerald [ __ ] and he has done this research that shows like in plants or vessels, like blood vessels, for example, there is an exclusion zone of water. I mean, there’s like a positive charge on the inside and a negative charge on the outside— that might be backwards. It might be positive on the outside, negative on the inside—but either way, it causes fluid to move through vessels in a way that allows it to move more easily. Like the water is actually charged, so apparently when you drink structured water, it hydrates the cell a little bit better.

Huh? Yeah, sounds like guns. Apparently, how water moves through plants—that's one of those things that you hear and then like you talk to a scientist and they go "no," yeah, and they get mad. So, I interviewed that guy, Gerald [ __ ] and he has compared it—basically he compares like how it moves in glass tubes and how if you structure it and you watch it, like the water moves up through the glass tube way, way better.

And then I interviewed this guy, Thomas Cowan, and he talks about how the heart is not really a pump, or doesn't act as much like a pump as we're led to believe. And so, if you drink structured water, apparently the blood moves better through the vessels. I haven't seen a ton of research on it, but I structure my water just in—'cause it's cheap. It's like this tiny little like plastic piece that you put on your—on your water.

What exactly is it doing? So the water passes through a series of glass beads, like it vortexes it. So after it—so it comes out of my well and I've got—I tested my water and I've got like a bacteria-based iron and high levels of manganese. Like I thought well water was just all like pristine and clear, like you know, like if you drink out of a spring on top of a mountain, but apparently there's—there's crap in the well water. So, I filter it, and then after it all filters, it passes through the structured water filter.

I would imagine that you would get some stuff in the water 'cause if somewhere along the line there's like a dead animal or beaver fever. Yeah, yeah, there's dead animals all over my—just piled everywhere—carcasses. I mean, no. But, well then the other thing is like what I get concerned about is, you know, you see like glyphosate and herbicides and pesticides—they get sprayed all over the crops. And I live in farmland territory, right? So, I'm on this north-facing slope and there's all like these forms above me, so I figure if that's dropping down from the ground into that water, I might be getting some of it. So, I filter.

Yeah, that totally makes sense. I know a guy who got bone cancer because he lived off of a golf course, and the golf course is constantly spraying stuff on the golf course, and it got into the water supply and a bunch of it happened to more people. A ton of people—the neighborhood got cancer.

Wow! Yeah, you know what I tell people is, like people who don't have a well and you just live off the municipal water supplies—use a reverse osmosis water filter because it's a really, really fine filtration, but it takes everything out, like it takes the bad stuff and the good stuff out. So you want to add minerals back in after you filtered the water. So, you get a reverse—and you could buy these on like Amazon, so like a reverse osmosis filter with what's called remineralization. Or you can just use reverse osmosis and then use like trace liquid minerals or, you know, sea salt or anything else.

Yeah, electrolytes back. No, like a pinch of Himalayan salt. I go through so much salt. I use this stuff called the Mexican salt, "kolima salt." I haven't—I was actually at a steakhouse last night. People make fun of me because I pull out my big white bag of salt and I just sprinkle it on everything, but I'm gonna—I'm a fiend for salt. I love salt. It's very good for you. And unfortunately, there's been a terrible myth that's been perpetrated along—that salt gives you high blood pressure, kills you, and yeah, that's a real tragedy. Because that's one of those ones that it was—it was spread in like probably what was it? The '60s or the '70s when they started telling people that salt causes high blood pressure. No clue. People still repeat it today and they don't understand it's an essential mineral.

Well, there's a new book out about this. I forget the name of the book. About what? It depends too because I used to do racing for Team Timex. I used to do these Ironman triathlons and they'd bring people in to test us. And they would do sweat sodium analyses where you actually get a patch put on your skin and it measures the amount of sodium released over X surface area of skin. And then there's an algorithm that determines like how much total sweat you lose, say, per hour during exercise.

And some people lose a copious amount of sodium in their sweat and some lose barely any at all. So, you have like a sodium conservation mechanism that differs from person to person. So, there might be some people who store salt really well who might actually get higher blood pressure if they consume a lot of salt.

So, if you know, and the massive excess of salt in your tongue? Yeah, my numbers are off the charts though in terms of how much sodium—oh, I was losing, which is probably why I feel so good. You're sweating so much, right? I mean, it's just going right through your body. Now, it tastes amazing. Yeah, my blood pressure just because I love kosher salt too. There's two paid, and they pay like Roman soldiers in salt. I went to war for salt.

Yeah! Yeah, it's scary good. I take salt. I mean, it's really kind of amazing that it was just less than two hundred years ago they figured out how to like make refrigerators, you know? I mean, it was refrigerator from the 1930s I think it was when they first invented those things. And then before that, they had ice boxes. You'd have to get a chunk of ice from somewhere, right, to store stuff. Before that, they just used salt.

And I've heard—I don't know if this is true, but I heard that if you come from an area, like if your ancestry is from an area where they did a lot of that fermenting, pickling, curing, salting, that you have more robust sodium loss mechanisms. Like, which would make sense for me, like I’m nerve in European heritage. I did a lot of like pickling, salty, and curing, so I would lose more salt than somebody who might come from, let's say, like sub-Saharan Africa or Southeast Asia or somewhere they might not have been using so much salt.

Yeah, that totally makes sense. Yeah, so with this Wi-Fi thing, I want to go back to that because I've always wondered—there's not a long history of human use of Wi-Fi and one of the things—I sound a lot of studies on that. 90 year old dudes running around, they've been doing so for—exactly, yeah. But the Wi-Fi, like when it sounds hippie dippie—but if you go somewhere like Prince of Wales, Alaska, and you're on a mountaintop, it feels different.

Totally! There's no radio, there's no Wi-Fi, there's no direct TVs getting to you, there's nothing. And that, it feels different up there. Yeah, you're also—I mean like you're grounding and everything, right? You're breathing a lot more negative ions because you're outside in the fresh air and all the emails jumping out from your inbox. There's a lot of confounding variables, but I mean, all I know, and I test—you were tested heart rate variability?

No, like, it's the—you know what that is? HRV? A lot of athletes use it. I've heard of it, but I don’t know. Is that inter-beat individuality? Like the variation in the amount of time in between each beat of your heart. So, it's not like how fast your heart is beating, it's how much time is in between each heartbeat.

So, you can measure that, and you're supposed to have like slight beat-to-beat variation in how much time is between each heartbeat, and if you have that, that’s high heart rate variability. So you can use that to track your readiness to train, your recovery, right? So I use, you know, I use like a ring like this or I'll do like a heart rate in the morning.

So, Aura or a ring actually—my cracker jack box, so it's a power—it's a power ring, it's a mood ring. I have seen one of those—someone sent me some plate. They don't just use rings, right? Just like other methods of measuring it as well?

Like you can use Bluetooth enabled heart rate monitors, okay? That's what I used to do—is you wake up in the morning, put on the strap, you test your heart rate variability and it tells you, you know, if it's low, you might say, "Okay, well today is going to be like a yoga day or an easy swim or a walk in the sunshine." And if it’s high, then that would be a day where you'll do like kettlebell training or a WOD or whatever is it you're gonna really do.

Then, the other thing you could use it for is if you still sometimes purposefully get it low. Like I have some athletes that I train where we’ll work them into a state where they've got really low heart rate variability, and then what happens is you taper, right? Like you recover, you rest, you super compensate, so you see a bounce back of nervous system recovery, and you can use that to purposefully adjust the training.

Huh? Yeah, and if you train through a low HRV for too long, you can predict illness, you can predict injury. So it's a cool way to track training. And you can even—you can look at on, there’s a high frequency and a low frequency. When you're saying you could predict illness and injury, meaning like my HRV is low but screw up, I'm going to go train anyways. You do that day after day, you get injured.

And the weird thing is that you can have no musculoskeletal soreness, right? Because a lot of the time that's subside, you know, plate onset muscle soreness. You see that disappear after like 48 hours, and if you've crushed yourself—like we can talk about this later if you want, but I've been doing single set to failure, right? Single set to failure exercises where it's just like a 15 minute long workout but it's just full-on isometrics, as hard as you can go for 60 seconds to tetrax isometric.

So you're pushing against—it's like this force plate machine. It ties to your iPhone and it alerts you when you've dropped off 60 percent of what you're originally producing at the beginning of the set. And then that's it, that's done. Game over. So you might do a deadlift, squat, press, overhead press, pull down, and that's the whole workout.

And then you're just recovering in between each of those sets. So this plate, I mean, how are you doing a deadlift with a plate? It's a force plate. So for example, you're standing—there's a bar, okay—that you're holding onto and the bar is attached to the force plate via two stands on either—like two pillars on either side of the bar, and you pull the bar, and then the force plate detects how much force you're pulling. And what positions—what's a lift?

You're standing on top of the force plate, you're supposed to choose the hardest position of each exercise. So I can have some fun. If I'm bench pressing, it's like my elbows are slightly bent as the line just near the top or squatting, it's like the knees are bent at about 30, 40 degrees. So you get into that position, then you generate as much force as possible for 60 seconds or not. When I first did, I was at 30 seconds. Now, I can go a little bit over a minute where I can continue to generate as much force as possible before it drops off to just 60 percent of what I was originally producing.

It's a cool, efficient way to train but you don’t get that sore afterwards.

All right, so musculoskeletal soreness is not a good indicator of recovery in many cases, and that's where this HRV thing comes in, is your nervous system, right? Your central nervous system, your neuromuscular system can be really beat up after a workout even if the soreness has subsided. So that's where you use something like HRV and you can say, "Okay, well I'm not sore, but my HRV is too low." So this is gonna be an easy day for me.

I'm sorry, but explain that if your body is not sore but your HRV is low, it's what is it showing, what's an indication of? So if your body is not sore but your HRV is low, HRV is measuring your nervous system recovery, right? So you might not be fully recovered.

So what I'm saying is like musculoskeletal soreness or discomfort is not necessarily the best indicator of whether you’re fully recovered. You have to test the nervous system to—measurement comes in—in coming full circle. I've noticed when I do those morning measurements and I'm traveling or I've got the Wi-Fi enabled at my house, my HRV is lower.

So, it’s affecting my nervous system somehow. Is why do you think the Wi-Fi is a mindfuck? Do you think it's really doing something?

I think it's doing something, but then there's—in this room, there’s a fancy bow effect, I feel it! I feel really—say, that's why you're a [ __ ] right now. You've got the Apple watch test, your HRV, so it's been doing by the whole time I've had it on.

But it's paradoxical because the Apple watch is making Wi-Fi. That's why I was talking about this ring. I bought this in Finland like three years ago because I wanted like a body tracking device. I want to track my HRV and I want to track my sleep cycles, but I don't like sleeping all night 'cause like I sleep with my—kind of my hand tucked down by my deck, you know? Like, I'm by my cry—I don’t want something just like sleep like this—I kind of—I sleep on my side, my hands touched like underneath me and then literally like my right hand is right down around my balls basically while I'm sleeping, and I didn't want something just like blasting me.

That makes sense! I'm sleeping, so yeah, because if it was on my wrist or on my finger or wherever—so this has like a built-in computer and you could put it in airplane mode, and it'll still collect all the HRV data and everything else. Then when you want to take it out of airplane mode and sync it to your phone and upload all your sleep data or your HRV data or anything else, you can do it.

Oh, so that’s why I wear this ring. So, like a Fitbit or a Jawbone or Jaime's stupid Apple Watch? I never know whether or not I'm being ridiculous with this stuff, like with worrying about phones being on me.

Yeah, but cancer, you know? 'Cause someone—a dude told me that once—that he got cancer. I think it was testicle cancer. And the guy was saying, "Do you keep your phone in your right pocket?" He's like, "Yes, I do," and the doctor was telling him that.

I'll say, "How the [ __ ] does the doctor know? Like, this is not proven stuff?" This is all real speculation, right? I mean, it's tricky because, I mean, you could say about the bone cancer on the golf course, right? But—but a lot of people, Dad, I think there's a class action lawsuit there because I think they tested the water and it was whatever the [ __ ] the stuff that they used for fertilizer or pesticides. So, I was telling me I was concerned about the dick cancer thing because those stem cells, like, right—will you shoot can you stem cells into your dick?

Well, for the past three million, so Men's Health magazine just had me write this article called "New Year, New Dick." I'm serious, you get them. It's got a—issue with Marky Mark Wahlberg on the Hunts on the cover. Appropriate! Yeah!

Yeah, like how to make a small dick bigger, right? Nicola Marky Mark on that! On the cover, and now he can beat me with his, with his four-foot tall fisticuffs. Anyway, though, so they had me go around doing everything that a guy could do to enhance sexual performance or increase the size of your dick or increase blood flow or increase orgasm quality or—you know, they just wanted to find out where everything from like, freaking gas station dick pills to—which, by the way, those things do not have in them what they say they have in them.

What do you think? So they—you know, they say like epimysium and your okema, long jack—it’s basically for concealed NFL right after in Cialis or Viagra and then ephedra and copious amounts of caffeine. So, I'm gonna take these things. I just literally feel like my head was gonna explode. I mean, it's like drinking ten cups of coffee.

Yeah, we have a friend of ours who predicted accurately that John Jones was taking those things when he pissed hot. Seems like those things have everything in them. And he's like, "John Jones does coke? He goes, "I guarantee he's taking dick pills." They're actually pretty entertaining to read, like because it's all like the—you know, it's like Corina Chinese fortune cookie that's like maximum potency veigue aura and everything spelled wrong.

But the—so they had me doing that. They just—the ingredients—did you actually get it tested? No, no, we went to all these labs. It wouldn't let us actually test, but apparently the FDA has tested them and if you go to the fda.gov website, they have like these warnings out about the actual erase.

We took the five that they had warnings about and tested them and they—yeah, you don't feel well. You feel like your head's gonna explode. You can just get all cold and clammy, and some of them say that—I don't know why, but they say to take them in the morning, which doesn't to me make sense, but you take them in the morning so you just feel completely screwed a hot like all morning. It's like you're just mainlining coffee.

So, they did that. They did—have you heard of this like acoustic sound wave therapy for your dick clinic in Florida that's called Gaines Wave? And you go down there, and I walk in and the first thing they do is they hand me this like syringe full of numbing cream I'm supposed to just like put it everywhere. And so I smeared it, you know, my balls—my—like I just went everywhere 'cause I don’t really know what they were gonna do and I wanted—all shields activated going into this thing.

So I walk into the room and, and my dick's all numb. Had me lay down and so my legs are splayed. I'm on this exam room table, and this gal comes in, and she's got like this giant wand attached to a machine, and they do this for women too, by the way. They put like a condom on the end of it, and she just basically goes to town for like 20 minutes like a jackhammer.

Like supposedly, supposedly, it breaks open old blood vessels and builds new blood vessels, and once the numbing cream wears off, you're supposed to perform a lot better. And then they combined this, you know, we're talking about like with your shoulder; if you inject it, you should do like electro stem or vibration or something to get the injection deeper into the tissue.

Same thing like this, they do the PRP, so they do PRP into your dick, and then they follow it up, and you get a—you get a nerve block first. My axe—I thought—I don't know why I thought they put the needle just like right in the pee hole, which to me made sense, but—but it doesn't really. I mean, you want to in the actual tit.

So they actually go like up where the dick attaches, like the tissue at the top, we do two nerve blocks on either side, and then the PRP. And later on, like a couple months later, they have new stem cells actually extracted a couple months later from my back.

And we did a stem cell injection, but this acoustic sound wave therapy with the PRP, like it wears off and you literally just like get boners all the time, like all night long for like a month.

So, the acoustic sound therapy is supposed to be breaking up blood vessel, breaks open old vessels means wave procedure, breaks up plaque formation in blood vessels and stimulates the growth of new blood vessels in the penis, low-intensity extracorporeal shock wave therapy.

Mmm, that's gonna sell a lot of procedures before and after. Yeah, before, it looks like a—like an old hunched-over man. Then all of a sudden, bigger.

Yeah, I used to do bodybuilding, so is that a horrible sport? Do you think it's real? Do you think that's really doing something?

I worked for me, okay? Worked for me. And the—so, yeah, the gas station dick pills. They did the acoustic sound wave therapy, sessions. They had me do like the no stem cells with stem cells, stem cells—but that mean that not everybody's gonna be able to do that.

But that was the best, bar none. Like they—so, I went down to Florida and of course, again, Florida—I don't know what I think is, because all the old people live in Florida, all the people like hunched over the steering motor, but all the guys have great dicks. I can't drive. They have their plates garage for like two miles before they turn, but their dicks are primed.

So the stem cell thing was at the US Stem Cell Clinic in Florida. I went in there and they extract all the fat for me. They took the fat on my back, and what they do is they have—it's called an enzymatic process where they use something that breaks down the collagen in the fat, and then they have the stem cells that get separated from the fat. And apparently, it's very, very high in these angiogenic—like vessel building compounds.

And so then you get that re-injected. It's high in the MSC and camel, the MSC cells—which are supposedly the very good ones to inject in. So I injected those, or I had a doctor in Spokane, so they shipped them into Spokane on ice and they show up at my house like 7:00 a.m.—right? 'Cause you got to get them delivered same day. And then I had my appointment at 9:00 a.m., and I went to the doctor and, you know, very—it was like deja vu from Florida where like I go in, do that—do the numbing, yeah, I think there’s a picture of him in the medics. They put all sorts of crazy pictures in the magazine because I had me doing like infrared light on my balls and this big thing called the Juve light that they had me standing in front of every day.

Like, I'll tell you about the stem cells—crazy. So, the stem cells—I went to this doctor in Spokane and he injected these stem cells from my fat after they’d grown for like several—in this case I think they were down there for like eight weeks.

But yeah, I mean, they can do same-day injections, but for me, I didn't have enough fat 'cause for me it was right in the middle of—I raced professionally inaudible course racing. So I’m just like lean as hell as I go in there, so they could barely get enough fat.

So they did grow them for a longer period of time. A lot of times they can inject same-day. So I went into Spokane at this clinic in Spokane, the new integrative clinic. It's like this osteopathic medical clinic with all these, you know, nice receptionists when you walk in the door and this doctor who he’s done stem cell injections before, but he never actually injected them into someone's dick.

So I was kind of like the guinea pig for—do you have to explain to him what areas you’re supposed to? No, he researched it, and I think he actually talked to the folks at the stem cell clinic beforehand to make sure that they were on that, on the same page.

Okay, my fly all the way back down to Florida. Right, that's super inconvenient, and it's just a dick! They'll make more some day—they’re growing kidneys and ears—grow dicks someday. So, I got it injected and that was, um, first of all, it looked like I got like run over by a semi-truck for like two days. It was like all black and blue.

Or the injection infected—it could have gotten infected—cancer, I've had MRSA and I would not wish MRSA on your dick. Mercer, a triathlon—oh, I got it. This was at the Wildflower triathlon like coming back. My flight got delayed and I was covered in all these—'cause like an off-road triathlon and I had all these scrapes and wounds and I think—I think my layover was in Vegas.

I don’t remember where, but I had to check in to a hotel. Flight got delayed and I slept in this hotel room that I swear like there must have been something on the bed because within a few days, like it was all—you know it gets all nasty and cakey and then it was eating a hole. I wrote a whole blog post about this on my website and they say you can see—yeah, pull up the hole in the back of my leg. It's nasty.

Marcus gives a [ __ ]—just search for like Ben Greenfield staff and you'll see the pictures, but it was eating a hole in the back of my leg. My kids roll now once a week and I buy on—I get the offense soap from on it. As soon as they don’t—as soon as they come back in the door, I have them go into the shower upstairs, defense soap.

Yeah, a bunch of different wipes and stuff for people that train in a place that doesn't have a shower. Mmm-hmm, yeah, you gotta be careful that in a thieves essential oil. It's like kind of like it's a whole bunch of companies make this version of essential oil. Mom, thieves, it's like clove and roids named after Steve's, who apparently never—yeah clove, cinnamon, eucalyptus, we just really give their staff and Rosemary—is actually named that.

There's like this story of like these four thieves that apparently traveled around the world and they would rob homes and—they never got sick. Like that's basically the story. I'm sure this was some board table at a multi-level marketing essential oils company; somebody came up with this story. Or it could be true, I don't know— but the um, yeah, the stem cells under the dick—that was an interesting—I mean it did—I think from what I can tell looking in the mirror it got bigger.

I'm pretty sure. How much? So half-inch, I like maybe that much. Like enough to tell and my erections got bigger and my orgasms got a lot better. For how long? They're still like that?

Still, yeah, so I think the stem cell is kind of like stick with you. Well, last week I got them, I told you I'm training for the RKC kettlebell cert and I was doing the—the hundred reps in five minutes snatch test with it with a one and a half pooed and I felt something just go. I was at eighty-four reps and I felt something go in my back, and I got stem cells injected all up and down my QL, my multifidus, my rector spinae, into my so ass. But then they also sent them to mate to my house and I did that same fat cell, the stuff that's rich in the mesenchymal stem cells in his bloodstream.

So I did a push IV into the bloodstream. That's the one that you would have to go out of the country to do. You're not supposed to do that, like that's tech—it's definitely not legal for someone to inject you with your own stem cells into your bloodstream. But if you get your stem cells extracted and they’re stored and they send them to you, you can technically inject them if you do it yourself or you like to have a friend who's a nurse or whatever and you—it's literally just like a push IV. It's like thirty seconds. We caught it on video for Men's Health films, so they'll publish a video at some point.

But I was super nervous because it's like a few thousand dollars worth of stem cells that, you know, I'm trying to hit the vein and make sure that they go in the right way, yeah, inject. It's a very, very small amount. What—you had to be the most nervous getting him shot in your dick though.

No, I was kind of nervous, yeah! Yeah, that’s not—I'm super experimental. I do a lot of that. Yeah, I know you like that; that’s kind of my stick. Yeah, like I do a lot of immersive journalism, a lot of self-experimentation, a lot of guinea pig type stuff. Yeah, I’m not dead yet and I sold my deck, so you look great. Happy!

Yeah, thank you! Look very healthy. 22, that is? Yeah, that's one of them, that is! Yeah, that’s an image for my website. That's not as deep as it got, I don't think that’s the worst photo. The worst one I’ve ever seen, stuff it with iodine like they have—you know, they have like these long iodine strips when you get the MRSA, and it’s like it’s flesh-eating bacteria.

Yeah, there's—that's me too, and they stuff—see that hole in the middle? Yeah, they stuff like a—you know, it's like a strip that has—but they literally stuff it in there, and you can feel it. You were telling me you got dry needling done? You know like that weird pressure? It's not like pain, but it's like a weird pressure from dry needling.

This is like that, except pain. Right, like yeah, I've had some from my staff in their leg where they've like a small golf ball-sized hole in their leg, and they literally had a packet full of that kind of gauze covered—no, like how you said—small golf balls a big hole. For the back of the leg, smaller than a golf ball? That’s a big—any hole in the back of the leg in my opinion is too big!

The worst I've ever seen is Kevin Randleman—see if he could find Kevin Randleman staff. He had open holes; we could see his muscle structure under his armpit. It was horrific. Gosh, he never really recovered. He was dying. He died; he died young from that. Who knows what he died from? But look at the hole!

I think I still have it. Oh my gosh! Yeah, that’s—look at that! Oh my goodness! Yeah, that's how bad it was! That looks like he got shot! He does, yeah! He was rotting away and I don't know if he didn't treat it quick enough or I don't know if it was just really aggressive but it's a real common thing in gyms. And once you get it, it stays with you—like it stays in your bloodstream.

Like I still, like I have an essential oil diffuser on my desk and I put thieves in it every day, and I just diffuse essential oils in the air while I'm working into the air. Yeah, it's like a nebulizing essential oil diffuser, and I just, just to play it safe, right? I just want to be breathing that in. Today, just in case [ __ ] that some—and that’s the other thing, I stand in front of this light, this infrared light—and this is that dick light?

Yeah, it’s called a Juve, and they’ve done these studies on testicular and sperm production, and they've found that there's a wavelength—it's like 600 to 800 nanometers wavelength of light that if you exposed the testicles to that for five to twenty minutes a day, it's based on this concept of photobiomodulation.

So I originally got into this whole photobiomodulation thing when this company—because I blog and people just send me these weird things to my doorstep to try—and they sent me this like nasal probe you put up your nose and it's got like a helmet on it. You could—you could look it up, Jamie, if you want—it's called a violet and it produces this light that supposedly activates a part of your mitochondria.

So you have like your electron transport chain in your mitochondria, and there's a part of that called cytochrome C oxidase and it apparently activates more activity in the cytochrome C oxidase. You produce more ATP in this case in neural tissue 'cause you have it on your head and they were using this in dementia and in Alzheimer's patients.

But it turns out it's almost like a neutral pick for you. Yes, that’s me at my desk with a young Chinese woman. I like how that guy's just like looking pensively off. It's cause it really well, she's reading a book. She's reading twice—see, that’s what I originally did. They sent me just the nose one and I felt shorted because they had like the full head. So I asked them for the full head one whole thing.

And, um, it was—I think it was MPR. It was either Radio Lab or the other science one—I think it might be Radio Lab—they did a study on my—or a story unlike this ten to forty Hertz frequency. That’s tDCS. I have one of those too, the trans-direct cranial stimulation, their halo device that you wear before workout.

So this photobiomodulation—I’m putting this thing, you know the probe in my ear thing? And you're not even supposed to use it too much because it produces so much ATP that if you amp up cellular activity and neural tissue too much, you produce too many reactive species.

Like that’s a byproduct of cellular metabolism; it's just like if you eat too much, you produce a lot of byproduct of making energy, and that's why it's one of the reasons why fasting is good for you. It cleans up the system and you don't make as many free radicals. The same reason like ketosis is good for you, right? You're not burning as much glucose; you don't produce as many free radicals—same concept with this. You don't want to use it all the time because you get too much activity, you produce too many free radicals or too many reactive oxygen species.

But every other day use it. So do your new deck! How often did you use it? Well, this is from my head, and this was like a couple years—it’s the same couple years and it was like a cup of coffee for my brain. Like every time I wake up, I put this thing on my desk.

So then this company that makes these lights that are very similar activates cytochrome C oxidase, activates release of nitric oxide. But if you do it on your testicle specifically, the cell that it works on is the Leydig cells in the testes which are responsible for producing testosterone. So you're basically stimulating the Leydig cells in the testes the same way that you'd stimulate like neural tissue using this one for your head.

So, I'd had success with the thing for my head, so I tried this one for the balls and the dick. And what I did was I would just jack my pants down for five to twenty minutes a day. One said: "Oh yeah, I'm diffusing my essential oils that I got to sit on my head," and it works!

Like you actually get more blood flow. I mean, I didn't do a control study just pulling my pants down and standing there for without the light on. I should do that at some point because maybe it's just like the whole, you know, supposedly going combat-style supposed to be good for your dick to just combat style.

So, there's you. Yeah, that's me. I'm standing on my wobble board. I got my ball light, and that's actually not my office. I was at one of my friends' houses because he had one. And, anyways, and I'm obviously I'm not naked, but normally I would—I would be nude and yeah, he’s just balls and just basically nuke your balls, yeah!

And it's like a warm teddy bear—more vascularity, better size, better orgasms. I mean, like all this stuff seemed to have a—so all the stuff seems to me they had some kind of an effect.

Yes! So, PRP injections, acoustic sound wave therapy, stem cells, the infrared light, gas station dick pills—and that's the one I would not repeat. And then they had me do some Ayurvedic stuff like the no ejaculation thing like we're Tantra. Have sex, but you pull out. Like the book? It's called the multi-orgasmic man. So I read that and learned how to like, you know, pull back.

Like not actually orgasm, right, and you like pull it inside, then you finish up and you're just like pissed off the rest of the day. There's any telling. Can't sleep at night 'cause you're all—you saw what?

So you could see how it would work, but for me it's like I got kids and my wife and I sneaked away to get it on. Like I want the full meal deal, so I didn’t like that—the no ejaculation reverse orgasm thing, but what's it supposed to do like when you internalize the orgasm, when you keep it inside?

So this is all based on Chinese medicine principles, like your—I think it's called your Jin or your Jing or something like that. You have this energy, you know, your Qi or your prana or your chakra, your lifeforce. And apparently orgasming is—and coming, like ejaculating is supposedly one of the ways that you give some of that lifeforce away, like you release some of your vitality.

And by having sex, but then not coming, you're actually creating that same hormonal response of oxytocin and testosterone and all these things that we release when we're having sex, when we ejaculate, but without actually giving up that vitality. My force, that was even—like I thought I found like tables or like based on your age, there's a certain frequency with which you're supposed to ejaculate.

Like so, younger you are it's like every two days, every three days. And the older you get, like it gets to a certain point where like 70 years old it's like every month or something like that. And so it's—it’s kind of interesting, but again, I don't—I don't like that. Like I want to— I want to finish.

Yeah, wonderful preconceived prejudice that you have, though! Like I wonder if you just went into it like completely objectively, would have some sort of a benefit? Or maybe you just get like mineral depleted and you lose all your zinc and everything else you need to make sperm and you start to cramp. I don't know, to me, you'd have to be ejaculating a lot! I think so.

When you were doing all these different things, how much of a time—like how much of a buffer did you give yourself in between each thing? It was not a well-controlled experiment at all. Hey, the article's coming out soon—we should toss this in there too. So they probably found it was not a well-controlled experiment.

And I did a lot over three months, like it would have been a lot better to just try one thing at a time. But I—would be so nervous, but I am well-hung and very vascular now. I mean, gradual experiment, so there's that. Well, so yeah, it's called "New Year, New Dick," and it really did make your dick bigger?

Mmm-hmm. So do you think there's any hope out there, asking for a friend, guys who have micro dicks? Micro dicks? What's a micro dick? There's really small penises? I would imagine there’s super—they could be like great politicians or influences.

There's got to be some kind of trade-off, right? It's like if you—I think that's the sad thing, yeah. Dom, again, like you never know. There could be a bunch of 90-year-old men walking around with dick cancer 60 years from now who, you know, heard this and all! Wayne got injected! So I will not attest to the safety of it!

So I can't attest to the efficacy of it! So that's crazy! Some of those things would work for them. For all those people walking around there—all you listeners with small dicks, hmm, fellas, there's hope!

So yeah, that song is—that, you know, like you were saying, it still works like it's—how long ago did you do this experiment? Oh, I mean like this—the magazine is still in the shelves, like—okay, it sits. But it was like starting—I got the stem cells extracted in August of 2017, so this is—it's like January, I'm sure.

Weeks later, I got those shot into the dick. So a couple months later after they really grown a lot of these immense MSC—molecular stem cells, I got them injected into my bloodstream and into like that injury that I'm fighting in my back right now.

Mmm-hmm! Yeah. And I'd done some other things before for the back and for tissue, like peptides, like BPC 157 that we were just talking about before.

Yeah, yeah, which is really interesting stuff. I mean, it's not intended for human consumption but it's also not banned by WADA. I mean it's—it’s actually it's legal to use, and it's a peptide, it's called Body Protection Compound BPC 157, and the 157 refers to like the sequence of amino acids that makes up the actual compound, but you can buy it and reconstitute it, and then if you inject it into an area—and it doesn't have to be like a painful intramuscular injection, it can be like a subcutaneous injection.

BPC supposedly stimulates angiogenesis, and it's a natural compound you find in the human gut. So, they took this same thing that helps to heal the human gut, which is why if you were to consume this in drinking water, it—and supposedly—and this is in rodent models, it apparently works to like heal up and inflame gut, you know, colitis, IBD, IBS stuff like that, but you can inject it into a joint or subcutaneously into an area around a joint, and it supposedly stimulates—the—I feel like this is a repetitive phrase in this show—the growth of new blood vessels.

Hmm. So, angiogenesis. And then there's another one called TB 500 that they use in racehorses—the thymus and beta—that one is banned by WADA. But same similar principle except that one acts on the actin and myosin fibers and actually causes regeneration of those so you could do both, and you get angiogenesis and then also fiber regrowth.

Now, that's—a strategy that would be like pennies on the dollar compared to stem cells, and also, you know, a far less intensive procedure in terms like collecting your stem cells, right?

Yeah. And then there's, um, so there's a fad for the stem cells I'm—from what I understand, if you're going after the anti-aging effect, like the bone is better, like the marrow—like a bone marrow. So, I had mine—I had my bone marrow extracted at this place called Forever Labs in Berkeley, California, and they store that.

And then what I can do is I can just inject the thirty-five-year-old me into my body every year or every five years or whenever I want to put that back in. So, I've got bone marrow fat marrow stored. So, they take the bone marrow—

And how do they have enough to just keep going? I don’t know. The protocol that used to grow this net—like I know the fat one, they use like a collagenase procedure that enzymatically breaks down the collagen from the fat and somehow concentrates the stem cells and you can actually grow them, like you can actually multiply them.

I'm assuming it's something similar for bone, and the bone would be more for like longevity and anti-aging, and then the fat would be more for—for joints. I know a lot of people got the bone marrow done for injuries.

Yeah, not compared to the dick injections! Course racing, and I was—I was triathlete before that! I did bodybuilding, so I've always done all this masochistic [ __ ] so getting—I think my pain tolerance is high.

Don’t you sure the bone marrow didn't hurt that much? No, they numb it. They go in—the dick one was where there was like that weird pressure a little bit of pain. I would say that the iodine packing into the staph infection they were talking about!

That was—I was up there with Daniel Cormier, UFC light heavyweight champion. Had it done with the bone marrow, and he was telling me it was painful as hell, he's about his time getting distracted. So, I mean, it’s—it’s a big needle for a while.

When I did the stem cell injections, that was cool because they used a digital thermometer sound. It's like what you would use to look at a baby.

Yeah! But you can see the tissue! You can see the areas where they're swelling or there's like a black area where the tissue is torn up or whether there's edema or inflammation, and you can—and he showed me the video after he did all the injections. You can see them needle like going into the—you can you can micro-target exactly, exactly where you want to put the cells.

Yeah, I've done—it's very, very cool—thermography, yeah! Yeah! It's a cool procedure. Have you ever done Rogem Akeem?

No. You aware of it? It's one of the things a lot of pro athletes were going to Germany to get done. It's a form of platelet-rich plasma where they heat it up.

And by heating up the plasma, it produces this radical anti-inflammatory property. It's like they extract it into this yellow serum, they spin in a centrifuge. So if you're going to get it done—I’ve had it done.

Really? Yeah, it's—I mean, obviously not doctor, but according to these doctors that do it—and there's a place in Santa Monica that does it called Lifespan Medicine. I've had it done, really?

Yeah, that for the longest time, you had to go to Germany. Like Dana White flew to Germany to get it done. I'm going over to Venice Beach. I'm going to be done by there. I'm going to these cats at the place I was talking about—the human garage.

That's really want to talk to the guy who does it. My friend, Dr. Ben Drew, he is the guy who performs the procedures down there. It’s great! He would love to talk to you too!

Yeah, sure! Cool! You day I’ll run out of stuff to inject into joints. But for me, it really helped me heal a bulging disc in my neck!

Really? They go right into the spinal cord. It's great for people that have pretty serious neck injuries and back injuries. Have you tried this thing? I think it's—it's Petach on—is the company that makes it, but it's like a neck traction device.

Yeah, one hanging in my—so I have that in a yoga trapeze. I do this when I get up, right? Get up, and I put like a bunch of magnesium on my neck and my back to relax all the tissue. And once you get really relaxed, I have this vibrator—it's like a car buffer for your body!

So you can vibrate your neck and your back, and then you get really, really relaxed, and it's perfect for, you know, for like doing your deep tissue there—but it vibrates! So I'll do that on my body, then you'll hang from this neck thing.

Yeah, then you get all these pops up and down your neck and it apparently realizes the Atlas and the axis and some of the cervical vertebra. And there's probably a chiropractic doc who are really pissed off right now because I'm describing this incorrectly, but it feels amazing! Like it just adjusts everything!

And then I hang from the yoga trapeze. Well, it definitely seems like modern press. Yeah, definitely decompresses your— I don't know about all that other nonsense, but it definitely stretching out those muscles and alleviating some of the stress that comes from bad posture.

And for me, it was a lot of grappling! Well, getting your neck cranked and squished and resisting things! It's like gum! It's kind of similar to traction and I really been getting into that!

Have you heard of El-Dawa? Eld-o-a? No, it's like a form of stretching where I actually had a guy come to my house for two days, and he stayed in my basement.

And we wait—we wake up. I’ve done this a few times—I'll have people come over to me and just like teach—there’s another guy who mashes it—like he uses a walker and just like mash up and down your body.

But this is El-Dawa. So, Aldo, uh—you'll like push a joint out this way and then out this way, and then your feet will be splayed in both directions.

There's like 20 different poses that you do, but it's a form of self-traction. Right? So it's like, um, it’s similar like if you were to use a monster band to traction a joint. You ever done that? Like traction your hip with a real tie? Tie a monster band around your hip and then attach it to—yeah, that's old.

Oh, was that—is that Adam from Mind Pump? That is—that’s one of the ones I do in the morning, that's l5 s1. So they all work on a specific like part of the back. The party—I say let me say it again—el-do-a, five or five, I forget what it stands for.

Is invented by this guy named Gaia, a French guy, and dude, you feel amazing. You hold these poses for like a minute and it introduces a bunch of new blood flow to the joint! They see how he's doing that—he'll like put his hand up and traction the fascia and so he's getting this intense pull.

If you were to do this, you get this intense pull on your back. I do this one. It looks like it—I could show it to you afterward, but you feel amazing.

I do this when I wake up now and stretching— this goes back! This is like some French guy invented it, and I don't remember how I heard about it by interview. I interviewed this guy named Jacob Shawn on my podcast, and he taught me all these moves and came to my house!

And it's another one of those really cool forms of stretching. It's like how often do you do yoga? I have a sauna.

I mean, do you do like an infrared sauna? No, we have a regular sauna. I use a near-far infrared sauna, and I go in there because your tissue is very pliable and hot.

So, I had a crane drop a 19-foot endless pool out in the forest back behind my house in Spokane. And I keep this thing just like SuperDuper cold, right? So it's like 4550 degrees, so that's like my mic cryotherapy water.

During the winter and the fire stays that cold, I just keep the lid off! And then during the summer when I'm coming back home and I'm going by the gas station up the—up the hill before my house, I stop in at an ice bag. I just dump them in there so it stays relatively cold.

And what I do in the morning is when I'm home as I do this sauna—And you guys, about yoga—I go in there and I'll—this is when I do a lot of this stuff, right?

I'll do some of my yoga moves, some of my elbow. There's another really good form of stretching called core foundation! Doc named Erica Goodman, and it's like a form of decompression for the spine, and he works with a lot of athletes.

It kind of like turns on your glutes, decompresses your spine. So, I just use a mash-up of all these little moves, and I'll be in my sauna for like 30 minutes!

So, I’m producing all the heat shock proteins, I’m getting the nitric oxide, getting the blood flow, and you just feel—you feel good, my sauna! So, I get all sweaty and I get kind of—we will sprinkle essential oils in there, and I'll burn like Palo Santo incense and, you know, put on during the song beats.

Yeah! It smells really nice! And you put on gates? Yeah! Like binaural beats, so there’s this guy named Michael Tyrell, and he makes these CDs and these tracks that you said—his name, you lowered your voice—and they vibrate at specific Hertz frequencies, right?

There’s what—there’s this whole idea that like your root chakra, like your fourth chakra, your heart chakra vibrates at 528 Hertz, and there’s different Hertz frequencies associated with different positive aspects of your, you know—it's—the sink like a chakra or a like, right?

But is that [ __ ]? I mean, if you try to debunk me, I feel really good! If I feel good, I’m gonna try to—you know that sauna has like surround speakers, and so I just—I play that through the speakers. No Bluetooth! And no Wi-Fi, Jamie, just like it’s just like my little shitty little high pod shuffle that I plug in and play, and so I play that while I'm in the sauna and I'm doing all my moves.

And then I walk out of my house, go through my office, walk through the forest, and I go and jump in the pool, swim in there for like fights, like 50 yards.

I know! It’s too much! Go back and try to keep things somewhat, because this is getting kind of complex between like the light on the balls and the essential oils.

Yeah, sometimes all the friends over and we will vapor—we'll smoke in the sauna and then we'll go out to the pool and then go roll around in the snow, then get back in the pool, then go back in the sauna. And might I do this? And my wife is inside making dinner, and we just feel amazing!

I— we got the hot! We got the cold, right? Then we go in and we eat dinner. It's amazing! It's my favorite thing to do with my friends!

Wow! But in the morning, I do the sauna, and then the ice, and then I finished with a quick dip in the hot tub out in the trees because I put a hot tub next to the cold pool and everything's like super clean, you know?

It's clean with ozone and minerals instead of chlorine, and so you just feel really, really clean. And I walk in to start my day.

So, I do yoga! Yeah, it's in it! It's in the sauna!

Well, it sounds like you're just stretching, you're not doing like the strengthening? Not—I do actual like—you know what I mean? Like stiff, like warrior one, where two or three—like standing bow pose, head nev pose, like strenuous.

I'm not doing like old person yoga. I’m just wondering what you’re doing actually in the sauna. Hmm, I make it up as I go, I don’t know! Like, um, I was basically—how you feel? While I was speaking in code, that's why I'm down here speaking Costa Mesa a couple days ago.

And there was like this banquet dinner as part of the event hosted next to this guy, Michael. What do you do for your fitness routine, etc.? He does Bikram yoga every day.

But like the Bikram yoga, like all of the poses that are part of Bikram because it's a set series of routines. You've done Bikram before? Yeah, that's like 90 minutes; he does that every single day, nine days in a row!

Yeah, like for years—every day! I'm impressed! We did it! We did sober October—we had to do fifteen in a month! I mean, a bunch of my friends—yeah, I wanted to burn it out!

So the last nine days—well, I had a few days to go, but for nine days, I just said let me just get these out of the way! And yeah, every day I did ninety minutes.

And it was like, wow! But interesting because you realize the body can do that! I don't like to overdo it though because it's static stretching and we know that can decrease in force potential.

Like, it can decrease power production to come to pliable! Is flexible! Isn't that the case, though? Pre-workout, workout?

But chronically, if you elongate tissue, and I don't know if they've actually done any studies on people who have done yoga for a really long time and compared their vertical jump right before and under, but I just feel almost too stretchy if I get too into it.

Like I feel like when I run, it's a little bit more like Gumby running. Hmm, versus not limiting! That's not weird! That's interesting!

That's definitely—it’s definitely static stretching prior to force production, yeah—that's not a good idea, right? Like prior to things like squats or some right?

It was like when—when the lights went out during the Super Bowl a few years ago, you remember that? And you could see on TV both teams were just like standing on the sidelines or sitting on the sidelines doing these long hamstring static stretches.

And I wondered why they were doing that because they were about to get back in, run and engage in a very powerful explosive sport. So, yeah, it's a dynamic stretching definitely prior to force production activities.

Yeah, yeah! I'm wondering why—they’re doing—maybe they just have really old school trainers or something like that.

Or maybe they just do it on their own before I do that isometric training for power production. I've got two things! I bought this stuff called nose torque on Amazon. Like smelling salts on steroids.

No, so yeah, powerlifter told me about it and he would sniff it before he’ll go like, you know, rip a 700-pound bar off the ground. You sniff that, you open up the cap on this stuff, and it’s just like releasing a wild animal into the room, and we release the kappa!

It's like smelling salt on steroids! And you smell and you just want to go kill somebody or—yeah, it’s called nose—nose torque or nose Tork, it’s something like that, like nose torque.

Yeah, okay, T-O-R-Q-U-E! Oh yeah! And so I do that, and then the other one that I just made this—you can buy this for like pennies on the dollar on Amazon.

Yeah, you can get these essential oil inhalers! So some guy just smelled it! Here we go! Yeah! Oh, he can't even get it near his face, like it packs of blood!

What did he just do? Or is he getting ready to do? It's open! That’s like smelling salt! It's ammonia! So I don’t know chemically, like I would imagine it just put your sympathetic nervous system into overdrive when—when you sniff all that ammonia!

So he's been really ginger. He's probably some of my friends at restaurants. I carried around sometimes—Jesus! I have some out my bow case actually! I was in the car!

It's an—you know, okay, it would be boring podcasting. Plus, if people really want to try it, they can just buy it on Amazon. So they should be on the field doing that before they—I don’t know if I would recommend that, you guys, like nosebleeds and heart attacks!

The other one is peppermint—have you ever used like peppermint oil? And they've done studies on this—on peppermint oil and athletic performance.

And what I have is this little—it looks like a little tampon. You can buy these on Amazon. They're called aromatherapy inhalers, and it's like this little cotton wick, and you put it—you put essential oil on the cotton wick, right?

So, it absorbs into the wick and then you put the cap on and you can carry this around in the gym in your pocket or I play tennis on Wednesday nights, so I bring it to my tennis matches, and while I’m playing tennis, I’ll stop sometimes and sniff this thing.

I say like awake and alert and do like it, it is just peppermint! It's just peppermint! But it has this amazing effect—it’s like this wakefulness-promoting effect!

Wow, peppermint’s amazing! I put like—it if you get bloating or gas, you can smear that around your stomach and it makes it go away. It goes from my favorite oils to use!

Yeah, through the skin! Wait, you know this—the skin is skin as a mouse internal organs. I don't know if it actually goes into the actual stomach, like in like—through that—the epithelial lining and into the actual intestine, but like it—it has an effect, for sure!

You know what I just started using recently? Is topical CBD! I got some topical CBD and like a roll-on—I almost a deodorant roll-on. It's amazing!

CBD! There's a—there's one I use this stuff called Bio CBD, and it's turmeric or curcumin with CBD, and, and yeah, it's same thing—it’s like a topical.

They also do THC—like THC roll-ons! Yeah, they do that! Another thing speaking of the sexual performance thing, you can actually buy like THC sex lube! Well, and I mean, it's like a high for your crotch, literally! You apply it locally and it's like your crotch gets a high!

I think you can do the same thing with these little coconut oil THC suppository—not suppository, they’re meant for swallowing in the mouth.

That's—that’s a normal route of delivery, but you can shove them up your butt like 30 or 40 minutes before you have sex and you actually get like this amazing high for your crotch, it's just like these THC coconut oil actual salts—not bath salts, like the drug—but yeah, stuff that you put in the bath!

Down this THC early! Yeah, they're doing everything out here now; it's crazy! They've gotten hog-wild! I mean, like California! The guy that I get my stuff from in California just sort of giving me this stuff to put in the bath!

Yeah, he's like, "You gotta be careful though 'cause—yeah, way too high in your bath!" I believe it, your skin absorption! Yeah, you're literally like just like bathing in it! Like people bathing in wine!

And these things expose—what? They bathe in wine? Yeah! There's this place I go to in New York City, it’s called Are A Spa, A R E E, and they have like one of the options to go—there's—you can take like a bath and wine!

That sounds so like Caligula, like the wine, the few virgins! It’s um, it’s kind of cheesy though! She looks like a news anchor! Yeah!

That’s interesting! How the f—did you not get drunk from the wine? Oh, I don’t know if it would actually wind up in your intersect, but they use antioxidant-rich Tempranillo grapes.

Well, how did you not get some sort of absorption? I'm sure you would get something! The sensory deprivation tank is that through the Epsom salts, your body absorbs a lot of magnesium, right?

I like the magnesium chloride, like using actual magnesium and said—and I like that because you can get it for—I mean, that's what they used to melt ice! Like, you can just buy this—don't like rocks?

Yeah! I know you guys don't melt a lot of ice in California, but like in Washington State, you buy magnesium chloride about like a frickin'—like concrete-sized bag, a concrete mixer-sized bag of it, and it's the same stuff that they sell in these expensive websites like magnesium salts!

It's just magnesium chloride. Really? And you can dump that in your way, way more magnesium than you get from Epsom salts!

Well, that's really what you want, is the magnesium, like that's displacing the calcium that's producing the relaxing effect! That’s, you know, it’s maybe I should add—that's in my tank magnesium!

Yeah, to make sure it's not gonna mess up the—is there like a filtration mechanism on the tank? Yeah, there's some pretty heavy filtration system, but it filters out the absence! I have an idea for float tanks idea, of course.

Because I hear—I get really bored in float tanks. So, yeah I just—and I know, that's them! Now, going to Venables, you—and I've only done it three times every time in Austin, Texas, and it's always been like, yeah a lot people with ketamine, don't they?

John Lilly’s method! Yeah! I have an edible that I make at home with kratom! Which is an opioid-like painkiller! That's freaking amazing!

It induces this euphoria like high and I add CBD, THC, copaiba oil! If you remember this, no copaiba oil acts on the endocannabinoid receptors very similarly to THC and CBD, but it has what's called like an entourage effect, meaning it enhances the effects of CBD and THC!

So like, if you're if you're vaping, you can add like a couple drops of oil over the top of the herb or you can mix it into like an edible—sleep cakes that you make! Mmm! Wow!

My sister accidentally took one last week and said she had the best night of sleep of her life! Really?

And I don’t travel with them because they just smell like—if you just open up a what, bask and full weed. So you know what—you want those in the boat case when you're traveling? Dogs through the airport run like OJ Simpson!

Anyways, though, the mix I use, coconut oil and ghee and dark chocolate and a little bit of stevia—like I have this butterscotch toffee stevia! It's amazing! I travel everywhere! I put in sparkling water! I put it in coffee!

Well, it’s like an organic butterscotch toffee stevia where you get addicted to it! It's a—it’s a company called Oh Micah organics, I suppose you get it!

I get a 3-pack—O-M-I-C-A! I get off Amazon! This is vanilla, butterscotch, toffee and plain, like if you just don’t want—if you want to sweeten something but you don't want those extra flavors—best—best stevia ever!

So I'll put all this in the edible and I have this countertop immersion blender called it a magical butter machine, and you blend this and it blends on top of the counter for like eight hours and all this stuff mixes together.

And then you pour it into molds and you can just put it in the— in the freezer! And then I keep it in these like a little mirror on glass jars so it doesn't degrade!

And that’s just like the best, best edible. So I should try something the four float tanks?

Oh, yeah! Yeah, return to my float tank idea! Okay! So I get these ideas when I'm in the float tank! And I want to—and usually it's like five or ten minutes in!

So I spend the next 50 minutes trying to remit like—don't forget this, don’t forget! And I try like these little mnemonic techniques where you imagine like, you know that like an image of what you remembered is waiting for you outside the door as soon as you open the float tank!

So, it might work for you to remit, and, but basically, it just kind of screws up my whole to be able to just like let thoughts come and go, and relax!

So my idea is this: why not have some kind of a recorder move to the wall? No! So, so like a voice activator? Yeah! I never did because—and then you walk out and use—get an mp3 playback!

Yeah, I’ve been trying to figure out what a good one would be and how to set it up in there with all the salt and not have it degrade. Mmm! But I think you figure it out. I mean there are thoughts!

And I thought is a Velcro, like a velcro patch, slap it in when you go in there and then activate it! You ever see those voice-activated ones with a red light beam?

Yeah! I don't see—yeah, no they make these LED—figure it out! You know, cause when I travel I don't like to get all the blue light in the hotel rooms, and I'll unplug things, try to make the hotel room dark, right?

Because when you flip off the lights in a hotel room it's just like freaking Vegas, right? There’s blue lights on the TV and stuff flashing, you know— all over the place!

So they make these, and I had it for a while. I don't travel with it anymore, but it's like a black tape you can put over things that light up in a room!

It's like a—you can—they're like LED light blockers. It's like tape basically, but you just put it over the cover of anything that lights up!

You can use something like that on the digital recorder! Wow, could sell this for millions of dollars!

Well, I think the digital quarter thing is a really good idea and someone needs to—I need to thank you! My idea—it’s not your idea!

I'm sure I thought at first when did you first start doing it? I thought it was like two years ago. I’ve had a tank since 2002! Early! Yeah!

I rate—I raced Ironman Triathlon for eight years and just got tons of sensory DEP in the water just staring at that black line at the bottom of the pool!

It's hard for me just to get in water and relax, and I feel like you have to swim! I'm not—I've never been able to get that relaxed!

That's interesting! So you associate like water with the movement? Because I see water with swimming! I don't like—I get in water and I love water!

I guys freedive and I spear fish! I read this book, Deep by James Nestor—an amazing book about all these cool things that going when you go down deep!

And he talks about how Olympic athletes are using this now to enhance their performance because your spleen compresses, and you produce more erythropoietin or red blood cells!

Same thing you produce actually if you sauna! Like if you do a workout and get really hot and then you go in the sauna after, they've done studies on this and they found that 30 minutes of heat therapy after you've already gotten the body hot, you produce EPO the same as if you were to use the performance-enhancing drug!

Just had a brand-new study just came out like three days ago where they showed that heat post-exercise enhanced the effects of exercise whereas cold blunted the hormetic response to exercise, which makes sense.

It's the same thing—the side of a window, though, it's a window of time. So the deal is you don't want to blunt the Hermetic response to exercise—high-dose antioxidants, cryotherapy, cold immersion—all of that can do this.

That's a problem with fighters because a lot of fighters are getting into cold immersion like immediately—absolutely, exactly!

So wait wait until later on in the day. There's no research on the amount of time! For me, what I do, same thing when I do like a hard afternoon workout—I wait a couple hours afterwards because you get a bigger testosterone and growth hormone response when you wait right after workout to eat!

I was actually—Mark Sisson was the first guy told me about this. And it turns out that there actually is a better hormonal response when you fast post-exercise!

Same thing with antioxidants! And there are a couple exceptions I can tell you about. Same thing with cryotherapy—not at the same time. If you finish up a hard afternoon or especially like an early evening workout, you have a very high body temperature!

So my theory is that a brief dose of cold, like I'll jump in the cold pool and get out—not a full-on cold, just enough to decrease core body temperature, which is one of the ways that you enhance deep sleep cycles.

So I also sleep on this thing called the Chilli Pad that circulates like cold water underneath my body! Yeah, and the cool thing is like your partner can put their temperature on and I can put my temperature on and you can sleep out at every temp you want!

So I sleep with this thing boys 55 degrees! Yeah, but it's not—it's like background noise! I sleep with all these! Everything! Anyway, I use this from Hoes called Sleep Stream, it's like a DJ for sleep.

So I put my phone in airplane mode, and then I have these noise blocking headphones and if you're a side