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The Ethics of Crossing Humans with Animals | Glenn Cohen | Big Think


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·Nov 4, 2024

So a recent set of controversies has to do with the funding by the federal government about a research that mixes human and animal genetic material, sometimes called chimeras. But there's actually a broader—so again, the method is to think about a large number of cases; it's helpful to think about very different cases.

So to use some real cases, imagine you mixed human brain cells, so human brain stem cells in the embryonic stage, into a mouse to create a mouse with a humanized brain. It wouldn't be a human brain. It isn't exactly the same. It's much smaller, for example, but has humanized elements.

Another example is imagine you took a gorilla, treated the gorilla exactly as it is, but were able to generate a human-looking face. So a gorilla with a human face, how would we think about that entity?

A third example, humanized immune system. Took a mouse, and we do this with—we have these at Harvard, for example—and created an immune system in order to test drugs. Think about HIV, for example, that was humanized. So not the brain, but just the immune system was very human-like.

And last example is actually valve replacements, heart valve replacements. So Jesse Helms, a senator, had a pig valve placement years ago, so there's a piece of an animal in him. So these are four examples of different kinds of mixing, and the question is which are okay and which are not okay?

Why can we generate some principles? So what might be wrong with mixing human and animal parts? One thing that might be wrong is that we think it will confuse the boundaries between humans and animals. Right now, we have a pretty clear distinction. Many people love their dogs and their cats like members of the family. They are able to say, "This is not a member of my family. This is not a member that has the same rights as my family member."

In a world where we had much more of a continuum between animals and human beings, those distinctions would become difficult. Now, just because they become difficult doesn't mean that that's wrong. It just posed for us a new problem. Maybe it would illustrate a problem we should be thinking about all together. So I'm not particularly sympathetic to that argument.

A different argument, though, is to say human beings are particular kinds of things with particular kinds of capacities. There's a dignity to being a human being. If we were to mix enough animal material into a human being, the thing that we would have would not be something new but would be a human being that could not flourish as a human being. It would be an undignified human being, a kind of entity that really is unable to truly experience what it is to be human.

Now again, you might push on this and say, "Well yes, that's true. They would not be a human being and they would not necessarily have all the capacities of a human being." So imagine having some of the capacities of a human being being stuck in a rat's body, for example. Sure, there would be ways in which you would not flourish as a human being, but why not think of you as flourishing as a new kind of entity?

In particular, you might actually think there might be an obligation to create some kinds of chimeras. If, for example, we think of Big Bird from Sesame Street, it sounds like a silly example, but it's a good one, right? Big Bird talks. Big Bird has friends. Big Bird goes to school, has been at school a long time on Sesame Street, I guess, but he seems to have a pretty good life.

Imagine if we could take regular birds and turn them into Big Birds by doing something to them. Would we think of that as improving a little bird's life, or do we think about that as hurting a human being's life through this mixture? Hard questions, but at least it might be possible that we think we're doing animals a favor by doing this.

And other answers might say it depends a lot on the specifics of the case. There are changes we could make to human beings by mixing in animal DNA that might make them better, and there are changes we could make to human beings that might make them worse and worse from a moral perspective.

For example, if it turned out that there was, to use an example from the literature, we could give human beings night vision so they could see at night like some animals through mixing in a little animal DNA, you might think that would be great. We could do more search and rescue. We'd be better drivers. There would be less fatalities.

On the other hand, if the result was to produce human beings that had much stronger aggression or violence or claws or something like that, you might think that's worse because we're going to do more harm. And that would suggest that the answer about whether we ought to have chimeras or not—and what kind—can only be answered in a particularistic way of thinking about a particular case.

I will say, and this is kind of referencing some work by my friend Ed Greely at Stanford, that there are particular kinds of changes which, from a sociological perspective, seem to bother us more. He describes them as kind of brains, balls, and faces.

So brains—it turns out we're very disturbed by the idea of human brains or humanized brains in animals, much more disturbed by the humanized brain in mice than we are by the humanized immune system in mice, for example. The other is balls. We tend to be very nervous when we think about the idea—and this is kind of crazy and out there—imagine you could create an animal that had the ability to reproduce. Its gonads, its reproductive system was human, so you'd have animals mating and producing human beings and animals. That's the kind of thing that I think disturbs a lot of people as an idea.

And the last is faces. The idea of having animals with human faces, for example, I think just disturbs a lot of people. Even though you might say a face is a face, it's a marker of human beings in the way we relate to each other, and I think there's just a strong sociological pushback against that.

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